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Highway Data Discussion => Updates to Highway Data => Solved Highway data updates => Topic started by: vdeane on July 21, 2024, 10:09:24 pm

Title: IN: I-65 North End
Post by: vdeane on July 21, 2024, 10:09:24 pm
I don't recall if we had a topic on this or not, but heading up there, INDOT has end signage at the ramps to I-90 (as in where the 262A point is).  Both the "ends in 1 mile (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.5826807,-87.3003058,3a,75y,309.35h,99.77t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s_GnavJAaV9ZiC9lA1eGqiA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?coh=205409&entry=ttu)" and the actual one (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.590585,-87.3066678,3a,75y,6.07h,104.38t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sqKmj4Gk-1IhFOdsVCv23sA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?coh=205409&entry=ttu) agree on that.  This matches the FHWA GIS data.  Looking at the corresponding point on I-90, it should probably be moved to the double trumpet in any case, since that's how we do the Turnpike interchanges.
Title: Re: IN: I-65 North End
Post by: Markkos1992 on July 21, 2024, 10:23:22 pm
https://forum.travelmapping.net/index.php?topic=4347.0
Title: Re: IN: I-65 North End
Post by: rickmastfan67 on July 21, 2024, 10:47:20 pm
Looks like we might want to revive this discussion.

They added 'enhanced' MM's for 262 @ US-12/20's intersection.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/2ymfv2TMDAaBCNXk7 (SB)
https://maps.app.goo.gl/4iQcZUupRr5KwCSe7 (NB)
Title: Re: IN: I-65 North End
Post by: vdeane on July 22, 2024, 06:53:46 am
https://forum.travelmapping.net/index.php?topic=4347.0
Thanks.  I could have sworn it came up but didn't see it in a search.

Between this and I-490, it seems like we're being inconsistent with how we're handing points at things like connectors and double trumpets.
Title: Re: IN: I-65 North End
Post by: yakra on July 22, 2024, 10:53:07 am
The INDOT Road Inventory (https://indot.maps.arcgis.com/apps/View/index.html?appid=4b145d7856e84295bc58632b55b2dfaa) says the segments between Exits 261/262 and US 12/20 are connectors, not part of the interstate. No need to extend it.
Maybe the info has changed since mapcat's post, but it pretty clearly looks like it goes to US12/20.

WRT I-90's exit 17 point positioning, this is another symptom of what I'd call.. too much emphasis (using my polite words again) on graph connections.
Title: Re: IN: I-65 North End
Post by: the_spui_ninja on July 22, 2024, 11:52:34 am
The INDOT Road Inventory (https://indot.maps.arcgis.com/apps/View/index.html?appid=4b145d7856e84295bc58632b55b2dfaa) says the segments between Exits 261/262 and US 12/20 are connectors, not part of the interstate. No need to extend it.
Maybe the info has changed since mapcat's post, but it pretty clearly looks like it goes to US12/20.

WRT I-90's exit 17 point positioning, this is another symptom of what I'd call.. too much emphasis (using my polite words again) on graph connections.
I drove that way in May. The way the signage is makes it seem like I-65 goes to 12/20. I would support connecting I-65 to 12/20 and moving the exit 17 point to the trumpet interchange.
Title: Re: IN: I-65 North End
Post by: formulanone on July 22, 2024, 05:24:43 pm
There is an enhanced mile marker and reassurance signage (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.5979446,-87.3072795,3a,43.5y,179.71h,87.09t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1swx6LQ6kTKVrGWl4DA4ctCA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3Dwx6LQ6kTKVrGWl4DA4ctCA%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D152.52736%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192?coh=205409&entry=ttu) right at the southbound "ramp" from US 12/20 to I-65.
Title: Re: IN: I-65 North End
Post by: mapcat on July 27, 2024, 09:49:34 pm
I looked at the inventory, and it looks like INDOT is labeling that segment I-65, at least partially. In any case, signage confirms it. 262 and 262A points are combined. The graph connection with I-90 is lost (and unnecessary IMO).

If you've been to the end, your final waypoint is US12/20.

https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/7588 (https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/7588)
Title: Re: IN: I-65 North End
Post by: rickmastfan67 on July 27, 2024, 10:06:32 pm
The graph connection with I-90 is lost (and unnecessary IMO).

I personally would also recommend recentering the point on I-90 as well back at the interchange overpass for the ramps where it was previously, but that's just me. :)
Title: Re: IN: I-65 North End
Post by: mapcat on July 28, 2024, 09:59:34 am
The graph connection with I-90 is lost (and unnecessary IMO).

I personally would also recommend recentering the point on I-90 as well back at the interchange overpass for the ramps where it was previously, but that's just me. :)

Not sure what you mean. I didn't move that point.
Title: Re: IN: I-65 North End
Post by: vdeane on July 28, 2024, 05:15:15 pm
The graph connection with I-90 is lost (and unnecessary IMO).

I personally would also recommend recentering the point on I-90 as well back at the interchange overpass for the ramps where it was previously, but that's just me. :)

Not sure what you mean. I didn't move that point.
He means to move the point on I-90 for that interchange to the trumpet to be consistent with the other toll road interchanges.
Title: Re: IN: I-65 North End
Post by: rickmastfan67 on July 29, 2024, 02:25:06 am
The graph connection with I-90 is lost (and unnecessary IMO).

I personally would also recommend recentering the point on I-90 as well back at the interchange overpass for the ramps where it was previously, but that's just me. :)

Not sure what you mean. I didn't move that point.
He means to move the point on I-90 for that interchange to the trumpet to be consistent with the other toll road interchanges.

This.  This was where the point was previously before the graph connection with I-65 was made back in 2021 (https://forum.travelmapping.net/index.php?topic=4347.msg24808#msg24808).
Title: Re: IN: I-65 North End
Post by: yakra on August 01, 2024, 09:25:31 am
IN I-90 17