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Highway Data Discussion => Updates to Highway Data => Topic started by: vdeane on August 16, 2024, 07:51:55 pm

Title: VA: US 11/I-81 Overlap
Post by: vdeane on August 16, 2024, 07:51:55 pm
While updating my .list file today, I happened to look a bit more at US 11's path across VA, and found something interesting on one of the I-81 overlaps.  Between 167 and 168 on I-81, US 11 is concurrent with it northbound but not southbound.  Perhaps the concurrency should be broken in TM, as someone who only took I-81 SB through here technically wouldn't have been on US 11?
Title: Re: VA: US 11/I-81 Overlap
Post by: neroute2 on August 16, 2024, 08:05:03 pm
One interesting fact: what is signed as US 11 southbound between exits 167 and 168 is (mostly) inventoried and signed as F054 (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.5461334,-79.6682011,3a,18.6y,156.67h,77.03t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sm-DNDoxSRyzu_kyP3eXDRg!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D12.970495460057094%26panoid%3Dm-DNDoxSRyzu_kyP3eXDRg%26yaw%3D156.67404426817876!7i16384!8i8192?coh=205410&entry=ttu). In other words, VDOT internally considers both directions of US 11 to hop on at exit 167, but has to sign southbound along F054.

Compromise that nobody will like: add F054 to the browser :o
Title: Re: VA: US 11/I-81 Overlap
Post by: rickmastfan67 on August 16, 2024, 08:49:01 pm
The issue here, is there WAS an exit ramp there SB till at least Sept '19. https://maps.app.goo.gl/JcPcZCsXZyuC1Wv4A

So, anybody going SB on I-81 up till then at least DID clinch SB US-11 in that area.
Title: Re: VA: US 11/I-81 Overlap
Post by: Markkos1992 on August 16, 2024, 09:39:44 pm
The AARoads Wiki article states that the Exit 167 SB ramp was removed in 2022. (https://wiki.aaroads.com/wiki/Interstate_81_in_Virginia)

When I drove through the area earlier this year, I could see SR F054 south of Exit 168 without an issue heading south on I-81 so I probably would have kept the clinch as a sight clinch even if the northbound entrance at Exit 167 was removed. 
Title: Re: VA: US 11/I-81 Overlap
Post by: rickmastfan67 on August 16, 2024, 09:47:58 pm
The AARoads Wiki article states that the Exit 167 SB ramp was removed in 2022. (https://wiki.aaroads.com/wiki/Interstate_81_in_Virginia)

Well, it's wrong.  GSV shows it gone Dec '21 (https://maps.app.goo.gl/3VdaFW4aiHeS73Sv8).
Title: Re: VA: US 11/I-81 Overlap
Post by: Markkos1992 on August 16, 2024, 10:41:32 pm
Well I just found a source that shows October 1, 2020. (https://www.wfxrtv.com/news/local-news/exit-167-permanently-closed-along-i-81-south-as-part-of-vdot-safety-project-in-botetourt-county/)