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Highway Data Discussion => Updates to Highway Data => Solved Highway data updates => Topic started by: rickmastfan67 on December 09, 2024, 05:06:01 am

Title: NY: I-787/US-9W interchange issue
Post by: rickmastfan67 on December 09, 2024, 05:06:01 am
Since we use the 'official' route of I-787 to I-90 in I-787, we honestly should have some extra points in the area in case people follow the 'free', but posted (https://maps.app.goo.gl/qbZMUdN6PtZpgSpg9) section of I-787 that 'ends' @ US-9W.

So, I recommend the following points be added:

US-9W: @ Hoffman Ave/I-787(signed)
I-787: 'new' 1A point where the 'official' route leaves the 'posted' route.  Especially since people going SB on I-787 can't access that interchange with US-9W, but have to 'loop' around, and thus lose mileage on US-9W they should be able to claim.
Title: Re: NY: I-787/US-9W interchange issue
Post by: si404 on December 09, 2024, 08:54:35 am
I concur with this proposal
Title: Re: NY: I-787/US-9W interchange issue
Post by: yakra on December 10, 2024, 05:54:50 pm
Denied. 1PPI.
That both the existing and added points would have the same labels if not for fudging in imaginary suffixes like we do is revealing.
Distance of 0.21 & 0.25 mi from existing points, well under the 0.5 threshold.
Title: Re: NY: I-787/US-9W interchange issue
Post by: rickmastfan67 on December 10, 2024, 09:17:58 pm
I highly disagree that this is a 1PPI here, and I'm betting almost everybody else would agree.

We're technically giving 'false' mileage to people who don't want to take the NYST 'ramps' from I-787 to I-87.

Distance of 0.21 & 0.25 mi from existing points, well under the 0.5 threshold.

Wouldn't matter if we were putting I-787 to it's 'SIGNED' end (instead of the FHWA route), as you'd have that 'proposed' 1A point as the connection to I-87 and also have that point @ Hoffman Ave.  And you'd still include the the 'current' I-787 point in US-9W's file as 'I-87(23)'.

For US-9W, you could just call the point as 'HofAve' and avoid mentioning I-787.

As for the label on I-787, 1A can't be helped sadly, since it is posted as 'Exit 1 (https://maps.app.goo.gl/CgjfbDZRMN8wdyZ86)'.  Also, the 'ramp' leaves @ the 0.4MM (but it's really 0.6 miles from that point to 'HofAve').  Overpass is @ 0.3MM.  Looping around is ~0.9 miles to complete the movement that's 'missing' from the posted 0.4MM to center point of the other 'Exit 1' ramps.

IMHO, there's a lot going for them to override any possible 1PPI here.