Travel Mapping

Highway Data Discussion => Updates to Highway Data => Topic started by: neroute2 on June 14, 2025, 01:48:27 am

Title: OH: why does US127TrkCin go the way it does?
Post by: neroute2 on June 14, 2025, 01:48:27 am

There currently don't seem to be any signs in the area of ColAve_N, where US27TrkCin splits. Historically, the whole thing was a large one-way circle on Dooley-Elmore-Colerain, so the way we have it was southbound only (northbound used Dooley to Elmore (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.1550247,-84.5410006,3a,41.2y,37.56h,80.95t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1s2SlEO2xCGgBKK279P0A-HA!2e0!5s20140901T000000!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D9.054007024294805%26panoid%3D2SlEO2xCGgBKK279P0A-HA%26yaw%3D37.55620579637088!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDYxMS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D)). Given the utter lack of signage in the current configuration, I see two logical ways to map it:
1. Keep it as it would have been pre-reconfiguration, with a single US27Trk_N point either in the middle of the circle or on (then as now two-way) Dooley halfway between Colerain and Elmore
2. Use the shortest route, which is the old northbound route, splitting the two truck routes at WilDooByp

Title: Re: OH: why does US127TrkCin go the way it does?
Post by: mapmikey on June 14, 2025, 09:26:31 pm

There was a US 27 cutout up until at least 2012 here - https://maps.app.goo.gl/8nyzkDHLGoFdH8b3A - before they deposted nearly everything in this area.

A 2016 article about the reconfiguration has zero mention of the truck routes - https://www.cincinnati-oh.gov/manager/capital-acceleration-plan-cap/news/avenue-and-elmore-street-near-spring-grove-avenue-in-northside-now-two-way/

There is also apparently a VERY poorly signed US 52 Truck.  Hopple St has explicit shield back to at least 2007 - https://maps.app.goo.gl/4MTNE6Mj6cE1AThb9 - and I-75 SB to Hopple where US 52 gets off 75 has a LGS that says Truck Route.

Also curious is that there are a couple US 42 ALT shields on the TRUCK route near the south end...

Title: Re: OH: why does US127TrkCin go the way it does?
Post by: mapcat on June 28, 2025, 05:47:02 pm

Honestly I am not sure. Signage is pretty bad. I reached out to Cincy traffic engineering and asked for clarification. I'll see what I can find out about 52 and 42 as well (I found one ALT 42 sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.1061248,-84.5362948,3a,20.8y,222.73h,92.23t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sLfuaUYVckUcQFnO6D0dW4g!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D-2.233621427323385%26panoid%3DLfuaUYVckUcQFnO6D0dW4g%26yaw%3D222.7311453348999!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDYyMy4yIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D) plus a TO 42 sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.0976417,-84.5261302,3a,43.7y,203.27h,96.4t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1stxe_l0DzJkH4OqSWZtJ-Yw!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D-6.403844848546413%26panoid%3Dtxe_l0DzJkH4OqSWZtJ-Yw%26yaw%3D203.26685949043895!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDYyMy4yIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D)).