ON 405 Endpoint

[vdeane]

While looking at ON 405 on street view, I found some signage referencing where ON 405 ends.  Looking 800m east of the sign, that appears to be this point, where the maximum speed drops to 40 kph.

Looking at street view for the other 400 series highways to cross the border, the QEW and ON 401 appear to end where they're marked here (well, mostly; it may be worth truncating the QEW to RR 124, especially if that type of signage is considered enough to mark the endpoint of I-65).  There's no signage for ON 402, but the point that was mentioned in the cannf thread corresponds to a drop in the maximum speed to 50, and speed drops seem to be something all these ends have in common (well, except 401, which drops to 60 while 405 exists through a 60 zone to the drop to 40...), so it seems like the MTO employee was right and the MTO's own internal documentation is wrong on that one.

[vdeane]

Technically ON 405 should end at *PorRd for the same reason, but that change was never made.

I know I need to deal with that.  Just keep forgetting to.  There's a separate thread about that.

But I honestly think maybe the 'end' point should be @ the Niagara Parkway instead, as that historically had an EB off-ramp till it was removed to allow more area for trucks to que going into the US.  We can deal with it in that thread, as this is about ON-402.

Since the question has been answered about ON-402, and since this is going to be a no-build, marking as solved.
Also, here's a previous thread about this same thing for ON-402.

Quoting this in the ON 405 thread, but the *PorRd point is actually right about where those interchange ramps were, although those ramps actually went to the parkway in both directions.  Perhaps a rename on the point (although people might have also used it to make times when they were shifted off the road due to detours in the recent construction)?  Looking at my old MapWorks atlas, it appears that the WB ramps intersected the parkway about 50 meters southeast of the current roundabout.

[rickmastfan67]

Technically ON 405 should end at *PorRd for the same reason, but that change was never made.

I know I need to deal with that.  Just keep forgetting to.  There's a separate thread about that.

But I honestly think maybe the 'end' point should be @ the Niagara Parkway instead, as that historically had an EB off-ramp till it was removed to allow more area for trucks to que going into the US.  We can deal with it in that thread, as this is about ON-402.

Since the question has been answered about ON-402, and since this is going to be a no-build, marking as solved.
Also, here's a previous thread about this same thing for ON-402.

Quoting this in the ON 405 thread, but the *PorRd point is actually right about where those interchange ramps were, although those ramps actually went to the parkway in both directions.  Perhaps a rename on the point (although people might have also used it to make times when they were shifted off the road due to detours in the recent construction)?  Looking at my old MapWorks atlas, it appears that the WB ramps intersected the parkway about 50 meters southeast of the current roundabout.

Only reason I mentioned the Niagara Parkway, is because this was where the old EB off-ramp intersected: https://maps.app.goo.gl/GfqCSAipMtxvcteEA

However, looking at the old historical sat imagery, I could see why just having it @ '*PorRd' would work.
https://www.historicaerials.com/location/43.15505826861556/-79.05264973640443/2002/16