Discussion regarding airside people movers

[Duke87]

Any idea how many airports have airside people movers?

14 within the US: ATL, CVG, DEN, DFW, DTW, IAD, IAH, MCO, MIA, MSP, PIT, SEA, SMF, TPA

There are more internationally.

[the_spui_ninja]

Any idea how many airports have airside people movers?

14 within the US: ATL, CVG, DEN, DFW, DTW, IAD, IAH, MCO, MIA, MSP, PIT, SEA, SMF, TPA

There are more internationally.

SLC will get one too (https://slcairport.com/thenewslc/future-phases/)... eventually...

[bejacob]

Anyone can buy a plane ticket and get on the train. This isn't like the US Capitol Subway or other private/highly restricted systems, which you need to be a member or employee of Congress to ride.

My standard of significance would be "can anyone ride this without being an employee or guest somewhere?" If the only barrier is purchasing a ticket, it's no harder than riding some long-distance rail lines, which we are already including in some countries.

I agree with this.

Having considered this topic for a while, I'm in favor of adding this system. I'm in agreement with the comments above.

The "barrier" of having to purchase a ticket is not really much different than having to pay a toll to use a turnpike. Also, IIRC there are a few airports where you can get a visitors pass including some that have airside people movers (DTW, PIT and SEA come to mind but I haven't checked lately to see if this is still a thing).

I'd love it if at least a US airside people mover system could be created.

[the_spui_ninja]

I can draft up a system here within the next couple days or so.

[bejacob]

Any idea how many airports have airside people movers?

14 within the US: ATL, CVG, DEN, DFW, DTW, IAD, IAH, MCO, MIA, MSP, PIT, SEA, SMF, TPA

There are more internationally.

SLC will get one too (https://slcairport.com/thenewslc/future-phases/)... eventually...

LAS also

[the_spui_ninja]

System drafted, in preview now.

[bejacob]

Nice!

There is one addition I would suggest. At SEA there is a Yellow line train that connects the Blue and Green lines. It runs from the D Gates station to the A Gates station. I don't recall if it goes in a straight line between the two end points or if if follows the curve of the terminal above it.

I didn't look too closely at the rest, but on first glance they all look fine.

Thanks for the addition 

[bejacob]

There is one addition I would suggest. At SEA there is a Yellow line train that connects the Blue and Green lines. It runs from the D Gates station to the A Gates station. I don't recall if it goes in a straight line between the two end points or if if follows the curve of the terminal above it.

Having double checked by riding the Yellow line at SEA this weekend, I can confirm that it follows the curve of the terminal (basically boomerang shaped). Two stations (D gates and A gates) allow a quick way to transfer from the Blue loop to the Green loop.

[the_spui_ninja]

There is one addition I would suggest. At SEA there is a Yellow line train that connects the Blue and Green lines. It runs from the D Gates station to the A Gates station. I don't recall if it goes in a straight line between the two end points or if if follows the curve of the terminal above it.

Having double checked by riding the Yellow line at SEA this weekend, I can confirm that it follows the curve of the terminal (basically boomerang shaped). Two stations (D gates and A gates) allow a quick way to transfer from the Blue loop to the Green loop.

Thanks! Found a map online, don't know why I had such a problem finding a good map of SEA last month...

[Nagamasa]

Some comments:

1) There's actually a list in Wikipedia in case we didn't know: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_airport_people_mover_systems

2) I'll go ahead and add people movers for Asia.

3) Canada and US systems (airside and landside) should probably follow Europe and be grouped by continent (naair and naaair), given that Canada and Mexico only have 1 people mover respectively. Brazil could also be renamed to include all of South America.

[Duke87]

3) Canada and US systems (airside and landside) should probably follow Europe and be grouped by continent (naair and naaair), given that Canada and Mexico only have 1 people mover respectively. Brazil could also be renamed to include all of South America.

I'm supportive of this. Hair removal systems! 

[michih]

3) Canada and US systems (airside and landside) should probably follow Europe and be grouped by continent (naair and naaair), given that Canada and Mexico only have 1 people mover respectively. Brazil could also be renamed to include all of South America.

I don't support this. I prefer having one system per country**.

Pros: Simplier system clinch (tracking), quicker reviews+activation
Cons: Number of systems*

*Having systems is a general issue for our railway project. We should discuss this in general first.

**Offtopic: I even think about splitting the eursf highway system. I'm not sure about eurtr since there might be routes through more than one country. However, we already have nirtr and sctntr system, Australian tourist route systems are by region

[si404]

**Offtopic: I even think about splitting the eursf highway system. I'm not sure about eurtr since there might be routes through more than one country. However, we already have nirtr and sctntr system, Australian tourist route systems are by region

nirtr, sctntr, Oz systems (and isn't there nortv?) are coherent things where those specific routes are treated as a coherent system. eurtr is a grab-bag for stuff that doesn't fit into those neat boxes. If the German routes, etc fit in their own defined system, then move them into a new system.

We also have the one (epic) route systems - chegts, irlwaw, dnkmr...

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Bringing it back to these airside people movers. There's one route in each of Canada, England, France, Italy, Spain, Switzerland and two in Germany. As there were issues about system proliferation, grab-bags is a sensible option for now.