Australia

[si404]

All the B roads (NSW (inc ACT), NT, SA, TAS) are now available for preview. At some point I'll deal with State Routes in WA and QLD, though it would help a lot if OSM didn't just tag the number on the shield, without the type of shield*, as Queensland has tourist routes and Metroads that are hard to work out that their aren't state routes from the map (Melbourne, VIC is likewise a little messy there. At least Western Australia uses 3-digit tourist route numbers).

*Could you imagine the US having no Interstate/US/State/County prefixes, but instead just the numbers? Madness!

[yakra]

*Could you imagine the US having no Interstate/US/State/County prefixes, but instead just the numbers? Madness!

LOL Texas

[Duke87]

AUS-SA A10:
- HanRd -> A11

AUS-SA A11:
- GlyRd needs a recenter
- needs to be rerouted to follow Hancock Rd and The Grove Way north of A16 up to A20. This appears to have been a recent change but some of the newest StreetView images available (within the last year) confirm it.

AUS-SA A13:
- OK

AUS-SA A14:
- GraRd should be split into two points since it's two separate intersections

AUS-SA A15:
- DysRd -> DysRd_S

AUS-SA A16:
- In accordance with A11 reroute mentioned above, needs to be extended east along Lower North East Road (former A11) to end at B10.
- Section west/north of A9 junction out to LadyRutDr needs to become part of A9. This is another recent change that StreetView imagery from 2020 confirms.

AUS-SA A17:
- OK

AUS-SA A18:
- OK

AUS-SA A20:
- needs point added at The Grove Way for A11

AUS-SA A22:
- OK

AUS-SA A32:
- OK

AUS-SA A66:
- needs to be moved onto Penola bypass, opened April 2020. Old route through town MAY be designated B66, if OSM is to be believed (I have not found any images or reporting that confirm or refute this)

AUS-SA A87:
- some points could use recentering
- SA/NT -> NT/SA (matching NT A87)

[Duke87]

AUS-TAS A2:
- OK

AUS-TAS A3:
- HarFarmRd and ThoSt need recentering
- add point for C829

AUS-TAS A4:
- OK, couple shaping points for the big switchback near the east end would be nice but not required

AUS-TAS A4Ele:
- MntEleRd -> MtEleRd, also could use a recenter

AUS-TAS A5:
- TheCre -> ThiCre

AUS-TAS A6:
- points near the south end could use a recenter

AUS-TAS A6Kin:
- OK

AUS-TAS A7:
- add point for C721 (just south of C722_S)
- seems to have a bit of an indeterminus at the north end, specified only as "Greens Beach" without saying where exactly. HB currently has the endpoint where Google Maps shows it... but there is not change in the road there. There IS a pavement change and associated end of curbing where the road curves to run along the actual beach proper, so this may be a better location to put the north end: https://goo.gl/maps/U9kmyB1uJEXYma469

AUS-TAS A8:
- BellBayRd -> C853

AUS-TAS A9:
- points near north end could use recentering

AUS-TAS A10:
- OK

[si404]

indeterminus

Excellent word!

These are done.

[Duke87]

indeterminus

Excellent word!

Yakra should get the credit for that one.

For some more fuel on the confusion, Tasmanian GIS (enable the road centerlines layer) has A7 ending at the Top Road intersection. The lack of pavement change here seems to be explained by the fact that A7 ceases to be state maintained in Beauty Point, so it's all council maintenance throughout Greens Beach regardless of designation. Nonetheless, based on this I'm now thinking Top Road.

Anyway continuing back on the mainland...

AUS-VIC A1:
- MyeSt -> MyerSt
- NSW/VCT -> NSW/VIC

AUS-VIC A1War:
- C152 and C146 need to be recentered
- CorSt -> C155
- CorLakeRd -> C147
- replace C164/C165 with two separate points C164_N and C164_S. Two distinct intersections with short concurrency and C165 does not make it here.
- C156_W and C156_E need to either be swapped or changed to C156_S and C156_N (respectively), depending on which direction C156 is assumed to run (it's kind of diagonal...)
- SurRivGorRd -> SurRivRd or SRGorRd (per labeling guidelines)
- C176/C191 -> C176
- VCT/SA -> VIC/SA

AUS-VIC A8:
- swap labels C222_W and C222_E
- MouElgRd -> MtElgRd (for consistency with how "Mount" is handled elsewhere)
- add point for C226 (just east of VIC/SA)

AUS-VIC A8Bea:
- OK

AUS-VIC A10:
- C118/C136 -> C118/C704

AUS-VIC A20:
- OK

AUS-VIC A39:
- OK

AUS-VIC A79:
- VIC/NSW -> NSW/VIC (for directional consistency)
- ComSt -> C256
- add point for C248
- C261 needs to be split into C261_N and C261_S (two separate intersections)
- C323_S -> C323/C353

AUS-VIC A200:
- C215_W -> C215
- C176/C191 -> C176
- SurRivGorRd -> SurRivRd or SRGorRd (per labeling guidelines)
- per state GIS, south end and changeover to C194 is at Wellington Road overpass, not Cliff Street

[michih]

There are some duplicate labels: https://travelmapping.net/devel/datacheck.php?show=DUPLICATE_LABEL&rg=aus-nt,aus-qld,aus-sa,aus-tas,aus-wa

[Duke87]

AUS-VIC A300:
- add point for C354 (west of C357)
- PittStRd -> LeaRd
- C323 -> C323/C353
- M79_E -> M79_S ?
- C306 -> NorSt (C306 is not signed per StreetView)
- C305_N -> MacSt (C305 is not signed)
- C805 -> C805_E
- add point C805_W at Sturt St
- C297 -> GraSt (C297 is not signed)
- C305_S -> DruSt (C305 is not signed)
- C142 -> StaSt (C142 is not signed)
- ThoRd -> C136

AUS-VIC A440:
- C435_W -> C453_W
- WooRd -> C451
- BarRd -> C447
- SulHilRd -> SilHillRd

AUS-VIC A780:
- OK

AUS-VIC A790:
- OK

AUS-QLD A1AltCai:
- no signage, delete (point labels on A1 and N1 will need to be adjusted accordingly)

AUS-QLD A2AltCha:
- OK

AUS-QLD A2AltWin:
- OK


So there's ausa and ausab. Both ready for activation once all comments are addressed.

[si404]

AUS-QLD A1AltCai:
- no signage, delete (point labels on A1 and N1 will need to be adjusted accordingly)

The only signs for either A1 route in Cairns are at each end. Nov '19 GSV for both. At the south end, the sign points you to the route we have as the Alt route. At the north end, the sign points you as the route we have as the main end.

However I will delete - the northern end shows signs of recent patching to reroute the A1.

[michih]

Overlanders Way is a disconnected route: https://travelmapping.net/devel/datacheck.php?show=DISCONNECTED_ROUTE

[si404]

As Santa flies his sleigh over the boiling interior of Australia, I submitted a pull request activating ausa and ausab. It also puts Brisbane's two MetRoads up for preview and makes a decent start on Queensland's state routes.

[Duke87]

I'm noting that the handful of B roads in ACT have been thrown into ausnswb. Should these not be separated out into ausactb?

On that note...

AUS-ACT B23:
- relocate onto M23 between M23_S and M23_N

AUS-ACT B52:
- not signed, delete

AUS-ACT B52Kow:
- becomes plain B52 with other segment deleted
- add point at Hibernian Road, this appears to be a diverging point for a former B52 alignment that was active as recent as 2009.
- swap ACT/NSW and NSW/ACT points

So ausactb, once separated out as such and those comments are addressed, is ready to go.


Tackling ausn next.

AUS-NT N1:
- OK

AUS-NT N66:
- OK

AUS-QLD N1:
- N84 -> WilDevRd (not N84 and not signed)
- route through Croydon appears incorrect - should just be Sircom Street and Samwell Street.
- ConEinRd -> GreDevRd
- SunSprRd -> SunRd
- OpalSt -> MicaSt
- points between QLD62 and Ravenshoe generally need recentering
- HarRanMemDr -> HarRanDr (per labeling guidelines)
- LonGapHerRd -> LGHerRd or LonGapRd (per labeling guidelines), and needs recenter
- YonKnobRd -> YorKnobRd
- MacBeaAccRd -> MacBeaRd (per labeling guidelines)
- GreSt -> ArtSt

AUS-QLD N13:
- add a point at Brisbane Street in Beaudesrt. This was the former alignment of N13 until within the past few years, anyone who drove it before the bypass opened would have use for this.
- CroLane -> CroLn
- QLD56 -> BouRd (QLD56 is not signed this far west)

[si404]

I'm noting that the handful of B roads in ACT have been thrown into ausnswb. Should these not be separated out into ausactb?

No, they share a road numbering scheme. And more than say a couple of cross-border routes like other B roads, the two are formally integrated on M, A and B roads (not T roads).

[cl94]

ACT should be its own thing. Saying ACT should be lumped into NSW is like saying DC 295 is part of MD 295. Sure, they mostly have the same alphanumeric system, but that doesn't mean it's a unified system. Each state is independent.

[michih]

I'm noting that the handful of B roads in ACT have been thrown into ausnswb. Should these not be separated out into ausactb?

No, they share a road numbering scheme. And more than say a couple of cross-border routes like other B roads, the two are formally integrated on M, A and B roads (not T roads).

What does "formally integrated" mean?

I agree with cl94. If they just have unique numberings and continuous routes over both regions, it is not a unified system and should be split again.