Australia

[si404]

I probably won't be able to look into NT until January. There's Victoria, South Australia and Tasmania that could still be reviewed in the meantime without this issue needing to be dealt with (if you have time).

I've fixed the Victoria issue that yakra raised by relabeling the A10 points with directional suffixes.

[si404]

Here's what I've found for the various routes that are labeled Nxx or NTxx within the HB:
- N1 -> part of A1

Where?

I've been unable to find any A1 signs on it. Apparently it's meant to become B1 and C1. Leaving as N1 for now.

- NT21 -> A21 at south end, B21 at north end

There's one A21 sign, with everything else being either NH21 (green+gold shields), NT21 (blue+white shields) or B21 - calling it B21, which is what it seems to have been allocated.

It really doesn't help that NT is doing a rolling replacement of signs (so only when they are replaced), meaning slow implementation of the new system. This is avoided by any route being seen to have an alphanumeric sign gets an alphanumeric number. However it does mean that on the ground info is often unhelpful - which when coupled to being really remote (2 urban areas of any notable size - Darwin being 150k and Alice Springs 25k and the other 75k being spread out over the rest of this Alaska-sized area) means that there's little local knowledge, few trip photos and GSV is justifiably lazy at covering it frequently and when stuff like the future C1 is an unpaved road in the middle of nowhere, comprehensively is a tall ask!

[Duke87]

Here's what I've found for the various routes that are labeled Nxx or NTxx within the HB:
- N1 -> part of A1

Where?

I've been unable to find any A1 signs on it. Apparently it's meant to become B1 and C1. Leaving as N1 for now.

At the junction with 87, this appears to say A1 pointing east.

Of course this could easily be a similar situation as with 21 - likely just the government failing to be consistent with what's A vs. B vs. C. I get the sense that numerical route designations in NT are rather an afterthought. The government's own website makes no mention of route numbers at all and refers to roads strictly by name.

I'm fine with leaving this as N1 until further info is available. That said I will also note that I am unable to locate a primary source for what the road is "meant to become" - I can only find a couple hobby sites from Australian roadgeeks discussing the alphanumeric system for NT and neither of them has any citations.

[Duke87]

Getting back on this horse. Leaving NT aside for now, tackling QLD instead.

AUS-QLD A1:
- general note: there are some pretty long sections between visible points where crossroads do exist. Consider adding points
- QLD25_E -> QLD25
- CaiRd -> DraRd
- ElAriMisBeaRd -> CasDr
- TulMisBeaRd -> TulMBRd (per waypoint labeling guidelines)
- IngHalBerRd -> IngHBRd
- JaneSt -> PalTer
- A6 -> QLD17
- PortAccRd -> A6
- QueSt -> QueSt_N
- LowDonRd needs recentering
- GreCanValRd -> GreCVRd
- QLD6 -> ShuHarRd (no signage for QLD 6 here)
- MirMtOssaRd -> MirMORd
- MtOssaSeaRd -> MOSeaRd
- ManHamRd -> MarHamRd
- StLawConRd -> StLawRd
- RocYepRd -> T10
- MooCreRd -> MooCreRd_N
- DerSt -> DenSt
- GeoSt -> GeoSt_N
- QLD16_Mir -> LarSt (no signage for QLD 16 here)
- GinGinMtPerRd -> QLD12
- WillSt -> T12_N
- QL86 -> QLD86
- QL57 -> QLD57/T12
- FraRd -> T40_N
- TinCanBayRd -> QLD15/T40

AUS-QLD A2:
- QLD76 -> GDCamRd (QLD 76 is not signed)
- there are signs for an ALT A2 in Winton. Add to ausab?
- QLD79 -> N79? (signed with white shield rather than blue)
- AmbyWalSt -> AmbyWalRd
- A55 needs recentering
- combine GatHeiRd and LawRd (one point per interchange)

[Duke87]

AUS-QLD A3:
- LisSt -> QLD69
- add point for QLD12 at http://www.openstreetmap.org/-25.09484/151.22891
- MPGayRd needs recentering
- SaaRd -> QLD68
- QLD41 -> T41
- WarSt -> T11

AUS-QLD A3Bri:
- GypRd_N -> GymRd_N

AUS-QLD A4:
- CleAlphRd -> QLD41

AUS-QLD A5:
- QLD7 -> FitDelRd
- appears it may continue south concurrent with A39 to Boundary Rd/Barwion Hwy intersection. Signs at northern junction state this and QTOPO map also shows it (at some zoom levels?): http://qtopo.dnrm.qld.gov.au/mobile/

[charliezeb]

Very minor point, but the spur of Tasmania N1 that's its own page { austas.n001lau } should read Launceston. (It currently reads Lauriceston.) No other adjustment needed, but the name of the town was typed wrong.

[ua747sp]

Drove from Uluru to Coober Pedy and back in December last year. Unfortunately most sign pictures I have were from SA, not NT. As with the rest of outback Australia, I recall all paved roads being posted with route numbers, though the locals referred to them by name. IIRC there was a change in numbering when crossing the SA/NT border. In SA, it was numbered "A87" on signs, so that would make it N87 or just 87 in the NT, though I don't remember which one it was or whether it was both. Photos from my April 2010 drive through the NT show all highways being numbered without prefixes. In the Outback it seems numbers come and go, but names are forever.

IIRC NT-4 was labeled exclusively as just 4, and I don't recall seeing any "B4" on any signage. No data to add on what is "supposed to come." Only a confirmation that this was numbered, but I suspect GSV could tell you that too.

[neroute2]

Does anyone know if N1 has been realigned at Muchea? N95 had at least a small change when the WA4 freeway was extended north.

[michih]

System still in preview. Merging.

[Duke87]

AUS-QLD A5Spr:
- OK

AUS-QLD A6:
- QLD84_N -> WelDevRd (QLD 84 not signed anywhere north of A6)
- QLD84_S -> QLD84
- QLD62_S -> SwaSt
- need new point at Mowbray St for QLD62_S (signs have it routed as OSM shows)
- PortAccRd -> StuDr

AUS-QLD A7:
- "Fra" should be moved a bit north or south, to one of the two intersections leading to Frankfield
- QLD70 -> QLD70_E
- CleConRd -> QLD70_W
- KorRd -> KooRd

AUS-QLD A7Bri:
- remove QLD48 point - this route is not signed and by 1PPI this can be lumped in with QLD20 point immediately north

AUS-QLD A15:
- add point at Yangan Road in Warwick for T1_N
- VicSt -> T11
- N42 -> N42_W
- BraRd -> T1_S
- McKosDr -> T3_N
- Remove TagRd - this is an overpass with no connection
- add point for T3_S at south end of Granite Belt Dr

AUS-QLD A17:
- WivPocRd needs to be moved a bit to the south (looks like intersection was realigned)

[yakra]

AUS-TAS N1: right here

AUS-VIC M1Mbt -> AUS-VIC M1MBT

[si404]

NT route designations from someone talking to various officials. This is what should be signed, not necessarily what actually is signed. I'm going to make the routes to match that, and call anything that disagrees either outdated or sign errors.

Here's a list:

A1 - Victoria and Stuart Highway (up to Carpentaria Hwy)

A3 - Luritja Road

A4 - Lasseter Highway (Formerly B4)

A15 - Tiger Brennan Drive

A21 - Kakadu Highway from the Stuart Hwy junction to the edge of the park

A36 - Arnhem Highway as Kakadu Highway

A87 - Stuart Highway that's not A1.

B1 - A1 - Borroloola

B6 - Larpinta Dv

B11 - Tablelands Highway

B20 - Roper Highway

B21 - Kakadu Hwy in Kakadu NP

?23 - Dorat Road - Most likely B23 though not confirmed (this is signed as " 23" as if it was A23, B23 or C23. However I'll treat it as NT23 for now)

B30 - Litchfield Park Road, Rum Jungle Road, Batchelor Road

B34 - Cox Peninsula Road

B36 - Arnhem Highway in Kakadu NP

B96 - Buntine Hwy (i know the number is waaaay higher than the others)

C5 - Tanami Road

C12 - Plenty Highway

C16 -

Barkly Stock Route

Tablelands Highway

Calvert Road

C24 - Central Arnhem Road

C80 - Buchanan Highway (Formerly B80)

The others are still in SR's or NH's

[Duke87]

Alright, that sounds good to me. Will handle NT accordingly.


Per above, AUS-NT A3 and AUS-NT A4 are missing

AUS-NT A15:
- OK

AUS-NT A36:
- OK

AUS-NT A87:
- N80 -> C80 (per above)
- Bunch of points from NT16 on south could use recentering
- NT12 -> C12 (per above)
- NT5 -> C5 (per above)
- NT6 -> B6 (per above)
- B4 -> A4 (per above)
- SA/NT -> NT/SA? (other routes have been done N to S)

AUS-QLD A21 is missing

AUS-QLD A39:
- QLD85 -> MarSt

AUS-QLD A55:
- OK

AUS-QLD A71:
- OK

AUS-QLD A139:
- OK

[si404]

made the above changes, created a new system for NT's B roads, having made files for them all (not counting those that are still state highways).

[Duke87]

AUS-NT A3:
- OK

AUS-NT A4:
- OK

AUS-NT A21:
- OK

AUS-QLD A21:
- OK

AUS-SA A1:
- A20 -> A16/A20
- A18 needs a recenter
- remove SymRd (no intersection here anymore)
- B6 -> B64

AUS-SA A1Ade:
- FulRd -> FulRd_S

AUS-SA A1Mtg:
- should name be A1MtG?
- C192 needs a recenter

AUS-SA A1Mur:
- OK

AUS-SA A2:
- needs to be cut back to north end of motorway
(this also means AUS-SA M2Noa needs to be extended - new extension opened Aug 1, 2020)

AUS-SA A3:
- FulRd -> B28

AUS-SA A5:
- OK

AUS-SA A6:
- OK

AUS-SA A7:
- OK

AUS-SA A8:
- TatPar -> RidRd

AUS-SA A9:
- PerDt -> PerDr