usams: Mississippi State Highways

[froggie]

That'll be fixed in the next round of routes I upload, whenever that winds up happening.  Don't have another day off until Sunday.

[froggie]

Spent most of the day working on Mississippi routes, fixed the above-mentioned label error and a couple others, added the remaining 2-digit routes, and added all of the 1xx/2xx routes.  Assuming they'll be online after this evening's site update.

[clong]

MS42's overlap with I-59 in Hattiesburg has labels I-55(67) and I-55(69).

[froggie]

Yeah, that's an oops.  Will be fixed when I upload my next round.

[rlee]

Quick review:

MS145Abe... Change endpoints to US 45_N and US45/25 (or US45_S)

MS145Boi... I don't think MDOT kept this very short piece of Old 45. I've never seen a state highway sign for it. Delete it?

MS145Mac, MS145Shq, MS145Shu ... change the end points to US45_S and US45_N

MS145Net... change end points to US45/278_N and US45/278_S (I would prefer omitting 278 myself)

MS145Mer... Change point MS145Cla to US45Cla. Change point MS145Mer_S to US45Mer or US45Mer_S.

MS149Inv... change endpoints to US49W_S and US49W_N.

MS149Men... change endpoints to US49_S and US49_N.

MS161Cla... change north end to US49/61 and south end to US61/278. I would prefer going with US61_N and US61_S and omitting the other routes.

MS161She, MS161Wal... change endpoints to US61_N and US61_S

MS172... change east end to US72_E

MS182Eup, MS182Kil... change endpoints to US82_W and US82_E

MS184Bro... I’ve ways considered this two separate routes.
- West half is from US84 to US51.
- East half starts at intersection of Brookway Blvd and Monticello St (BroBlvd) and heads east to US84. Brookway Blvd is not a state maintained route, and there are no MS 184 signs (or even To MS 184) signs on it.
- MS 550 starts at Monticello St and Schwem Ave and heads north on Schwem. There is a 1 block gap separating MS184 from MS550.
- Change MS583 to 1stSt. MS 583 ends at Dreamy Tr  just north of US 84 and does not reach MS 184.

MS184Bud... The old highway is locally maintained inside the Meadville city limits (end state maintenance signs are on each city limit sign). Neither end of the Meadville half of MS 184 (between US 84 W a.d the 84/98 interchange) is signed as MS184. That may be to discourage thru traffic on the city section. The Bude half is fully signed as MS184 (including US98 overlap) and fully state maintained. This is a tricky one.

MS184Mon, MS184Lau... change endpoints to US84_W and US84_E

MS184Way... change US84 to US45.

MS198Col... change endpoints to US98/13 and US98 (or US98_W and US98_E).

MS198Luc... change endpoints to US98_W and US98_E.

[froggie]

MS145Boi... I don't think MDOT kept this very short piece of Old 45. I've never seen a state highway sign for it. Delete it?

It was signed at one point, but that may have been back in my own Mississippi days which are 13 years ago now at this point.  Don't see any signs on GMSV, so yeah I'll delete it.  Also going to take out the associated points on US 45 since they're not needed (or in use).

MS184Bro... I’ve ways considered this two separate routes.
- West half is from US84 to US51.
- East half starts at intersection of Brookway Blvd and Monticello St (BroBlvd) and heads east to US84. Brookway Blvd is not a state maintained route, and there are no MS 184 signs (or even To MS 184) signs on it.
- MS 550 starts at Monticello St and Schwem Ave and heads north on Schwem. There is a 1 block gap separating MS184 from MS550.
- Change MS583 to 1stSt. MS 583 ends at Dreamy Tr  just north of US 84 and does not reach MS 184.

This was a tricky one (same as Bude below).  MDOT data shows all of MS 184 east of 51 as state-maintained (both along Brockway and along Monticello), which is why I included 184 the entire length.  Data also shows 550 and 583 as continuous routes with MS 550 ending at Brockway/Monticello and 583 ending at 1st/184(Monticello).  For this reason, and despite them not being signed from Monticello proper (but signed a couple blocks away), I went with the 550 and 583 labels.

For now, I'm going to leave it as-is.

MS184Bud... The old highway is locally maintained inside the Meadville city limits (end state maintenance signs are on each city limit sign). Neither end of the Meadville half of MS 184 (between US 84 W a.d the 84/98 interchange) is signed as MS184. That may be to discourage thru traffic on the city section. The Bude half is fully signed as MS184 (including US98 overlap) and fully state maintained. This is a tricky one.

I pondered this one for awhile as I was making it.  My conclusion was that, since it's all one continuous route and is well signed from the 84/98 interchange east, I opted to leave it all in as one.


Made all other changes and created a pull request on Github.

[froggie]

Pull request on Github for the 3xx routes.

[Jim]

Up to 3xx live on the main site.

Quick note: I have a long-time .list entry for MS302 anticipating this system that used I-55/69 as a label.  The manual looks a little fuzzy about this, so either the I-55 in the new .wpt file or the I-55/69 that I anticipated seem to be acceptable.

[yakra]

AIUI, slashing a second route into a label is allowed but not required.

[froggie]

^ That was my understanding as well.

Given that it technically is both 55 and 69 there, I'll include both in my next update.  In a related vein, I've generally been doing 22/78 and 278/6 for labels along cross-routes, unless it's a case like on 178 where there are multiple interchanges along 22.

[Jim]

I'm fine either way on that I-55 or I-55/69 label as it does appear to be at the maintainer's option.

[the_spui_ninja]

So I don't necessarily want to butt in on the review process, but the one MS route I've clinched (MS 333 Scenic) actually connects to I-55 on both ends (MS 8 signage) (MS 7 Signage). Sorry if I'm interrupting anything but just wanted to contribute the one thing I know about MS.

Also, is there any conceivable way to make this shield in particular blue (since it is in the field)? If not that's not a big deal.

[rlee]

The four Scenic loops in north Mississippi (32, 304, 315, and 333) start and end at I-55. All are well signed on both ends at I-55 and every turn along the way, but they are a mix of state and local maintenance. There is a separate section of state code that establishes the four scenic routes and authorizes signage (but not full state maintenance).

MS 32 Scenic starts at I-55(227), heads west on MS 32, then north on US 51 to CR 35, then follows CR 35 to Enid Lake. It leaves Enid Lake on CR 36 back to I-55(233).

MS 304 Scenic begins at I-55(271) and heads west on MS 306 to US 51. It follows US 51 south to Central Ave in Coldwater, then turns west on Central Ave which becomes Arkabutla Rd. It turns north on Arkabutla Dam Rd which becomes Pratt Rd, then turns north on "Hwy 301" to the 4 way stop at Old 304 and MS 301, then east following Old 304 and Commerce St back to I-55(280).

MS 315 Scenic starts at I-55(246) and follows MS 35 to Sardis Lake. It goes over Sardis Dam as shown in the browser, then follows MS 315 west back to I-55(252)

MS 333 Scenic starts at I-55(206) and heads east on MS 8 before splitting to head to Grenada Lake and MS 7. It is cosigned with MS 7 back to I-55(211).

Hope this helps.

[froggie]

I'm going to have to reevaluate including the scenic routes.  The only reason I put them in to begin with is because part of the 333 scenic loop is actually vanilla MS 333 (albeit "locally maintained").  Not all the turns are "well signed", either....there's no indication (at least on GMSV) that one turns left at MS 7 to get back to I-55.  333 is also unsigned from US 51 from what I can tell, nor is there any indication that Scenic 315 follows actual 315 back to I-55.

[the_spui_ninja]

They're signed better than some Colorado routes I have in the HB, and it was clear enough where 333 Scenic went from I think just a Rand McNally that I was able to follow it; just my two cents.