Europe Tier-5 systems overview

[michih]

List of potential systems (Grey=no potential system, Black=to be checked or not yet drafted (not in HB), Red=devel, Orange=preview, Chocolate=review requested, Green=active).

alakt - Aland Kantatiet
albrr - Albania Rruga Rrethi (rarely signed)
andcs - Andorra Carreteras Secundarias
arm - Armenia
autl1 - Burgenland Landesstraßen 1. Ordnung (not signed)
autl2 - Carinthia Landesstraßen L (rarely signed)
autl3 - Lower Austria Landesstraßen L (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
autl4 - Upper Austria Landesstraßen 1. Ordnung
autl42 - Upper Austria Landesstraßen 2. Ordnung (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
autl5 - Salzburg Landesstraßen
autl6 - Styria Landesstraßen L (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
autl7 - Tyrol Landesstraßen L
autl8 - Vorarlberg Landesstraßen L (not signed)
autl9 - Vienna Hauptstraßen A (system is not numbered but just indicated with street names)
aze - Azerbaijan
beln - Belgium Route Nationale / Gewestwegen
bihr - Bosnia and Herzegovina Regionalne ceste I reda (potential tier 5 system)
bgrii - Bulgaria Third Class Roads (potential tier 5 system)
blr - Belarus
chex - Switzerland "3-digit Hauptstraßen" (not signed)
cype - Cyprus E Roads (potential tier 5 system)
czeii - Czechia Silnice II. Třídy
deubwl - Baden-Württemberg Landesstraßen
deubyst - Bavaria Staatsstraßen
deubbl - Brandenburg Landesstraßen
deuhhr - Hamburg Ringstraßen
deuhel - Hesse Landesstraßen
deumvl - Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania Landesstraßen
deunil - Lower Saxony Landesstraßen
deunwl - North Rhine-Westphalia Landesstraßen
deurpl - Rhineland-Palatinate Landesstraßen
deusll - Saarland Landesstraßen 1. Ordnung
deusns - Saxony Staatsstraßen
deustl - Saxony-Anhalt Landesstraßen
deushl - Schleswig-Holstein Landesstraßen
deuthl - Thuringia Landesstraßen
dnksr - Denmark Sekundærrute
espan - Andalusia Red Básica
espar - Aragon Red Básica
espas - Asturias Red Regional
espcb - Cantabria Red Primaria
espcl - Castile and Leon Red Básica
espcm - Castilla-La Mancha Red Básica
espcn - Canary Islands Red Regional
espct - Catalonia Xarxa Básica
espex - Extremadura Red Básica
espga - Galicia Red Primaria Básica
espib - Balearic Islands Red Primaria
espmc - Region of Murcia Red de Primer Nivel
espmd - Community of Madrid Red Principal
espnc - Navarre Carreteras de Interés de la Comunidad Foral
esppv - Basque Country Oinarrizko Sarea
espri - La Rioja Red Regional Básica
espvc - Valencian Community Red Básica
estt - Estonia Tugimaanteed
finst - Finland Seututiet
fraarad01 - Ain Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
fraarad03 - Allier Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
fraarad07 - Ardèche Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
fraarad15 - Cantal Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
fraarad26 - Drôme Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
fraarad38 - Isère Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d. M routes to be split off
fraaram38 - Grenoble-Alpes Métropole Routes Métropolitaines (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
fraarad42 - Loire Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
fraaram42 - Saint-Étienne Métropole Routes Métropolitaines (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
fraarad43 - Haute-Loire Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
fraarad63 - Puy-de-Dôme Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
fraaram63 - Clermont Auvergne Métropole Routes Métropolitaines (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
fraarad69 - Rhône Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d. border to Lyon to be checked when drafting fraaram69
fraaram69 - Lyon Routes Métropolitaines (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
fraarad73 - Savoie Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
fraarad74 - Haute-Savoie Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
frabfcd21 - Côte-d’Or Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
frabfcm21 - Dijon Métropole Routes Métropolitaines (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
frabfcd25 - Doubs Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
frabfcd39 - Jura Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
frabfcd58 - Nièvre Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
frabfcd70 - Haute-Saône Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
frabfcd71 - Saône-et-Loire Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
frabfcd89 - Yonne Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
frabfcd90 - Territoire de Belfort Routes Départementales
frabred22 - Côtes-d’Armor Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: si404
frabred29 - Finistère Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d. M routes to be split off
frabrem29 - Brest Métropole Routes Métropolitaines (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
frabred35 - Ille-et-Vilaine Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d. M routes to be split off
frabrem35 - Rennes Métropole Routes Métropolitaines (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
frabred56 - Morbihan Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: si404
fracord - Corsica Routes Départementales
fracvld18 - Cher Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
fracvld28 - Eure-et-Loir Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
fracvld36 - Indre Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
fracvld37 - Indre-et-Loire Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d. M routes to be split off
fracvlm37 - Tours Métropole Val de Loire Routes Métropolitaines (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
fracvld41 - Loir-et-Cher Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
fracvld45 - Loiret Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d. M routes to be split off
fracvlm45 - Orléans Métropole Routes Métropolitaines (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
fragesd08 - Ardennes Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
fragesd10 - Aube Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
fragesd51 - Marne Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
fragesd52 - Haute-Marne Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: si404
fragesd54 - Meurthe-et-Moselle Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
fragesm54 - Métropole du Grand Nancy Routes Métropolitaines (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
fragesd55 - Meuse Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
fragesd57 - Moselle Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d. M routes to be split off
fragesm57 - Metz Métropole Routes Métropolitaines (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
fragesd6ae - Collectivité européenne d'Alsace Routes Départementales
fragesm6ae - Eurométropole de Strasbourg Routes Métropolitaines
fragesd88 - Vosges Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
frahdfd02 - Aisne Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: si404
frahdfd59 - Nord Routes Départementales
frahdfm59 - Métropole européenne de Lille Routes Métropolitaines
frahdfd60 - Oise Routes Départementales
frahdfd62 - Pas-de-Calais Routes Départementales
frahdfd80 - Somme Routes Départementales
fraidfd77 - Seine-et-Marne Routes Départementales
fraidfd78 - Yvelines Routes Départementales
fraidfd91 - Essonne Routes Départementales
fraidfd92 - Hauts-de-Seine Routes Départementales
fraidfd93 - Seine-Saint-Denis Routes Départementales
fraidfd94 - Val-de-Marne Routes Départementales
fraidfd95 - Val-d'Oise Routes Départementales
franord14 - Calvados Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
franord27 - Eure Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
franord50 - Manche Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
franord61 - Orne Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
franord76 - Seine-Maritime Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d. M routes to be split off
franorm76 - Métropole Rouen Normandie Routes Métropolitaines (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
franaqd16 - Charente Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
franaqd17 - Charente-Maritime Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
franaqd19 - Corrèze Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
franaqd23 - Creuse Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
franaqd24 - Dordogne Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
franaqd33 - Gironde Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
franaqm33 - Bordeaux Métropole Routes Métropolitaines (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
franaqd40 - Landes Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
franaqd47 - Lot-et-Garonne Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
franaqd64 - Pyrénées-Atlantiques Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
franaqd79 - Deux-Sèvres Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
franaqd86 - Vienne Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
franaqd87 - Haute-Vienne Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
fraoccd09 - Ariège Routes Départementales (michih)  reviewer: t.b.d.
fraoccd11 - Aude Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
fraoccd12 - Aveyron Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
fraoccd30 - Gard Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
fraoccd31 - Haute-Garonne Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: si404
fraoccm31 - Toulouse Métropole Routes Métropolitaines
fraoccd32 - Gers Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
fraoccd34 - Hérault Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: si404
fraoccm34 - Montpellier Méditerranée (Métropole) Routes Métropolitaines (michih) reviewer: si404
fraoccd46 - Lot Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
fraoccd48 - Lozère Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
fraoccd65 - Hautes-Pyrénées Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
fraoccd66 - Pyrénées-Orientales Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
fraoccd81 - Tarn Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
fraoccd82 - Tarn-et-Garonne Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
frapdld44 - Loire-Atlantique Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
frapdlm44 - Nantes Métropole Routes Métropolitaines
frapdld49 - Maine-et-Loire Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
frapdld53 - Mayenne Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
frapdld72 - Sarthe Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
frapdld85 - Vendée Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
frapacd04 - Alpes-de-Haute-Provence Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
frapacd05 - Hautes-Alpes Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
frapacd06 - Alpes-Maritimes Routes Départementales
frapacm06 - Métropole‎ Nice Côte d'Azur Routes Métropolitaines
frapacd13 - Bouches-du-Rhône Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
frapacd83 - Var Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d. M routes to be split off
frapacm83 - (Métropole) Toulon Provence Méditerranée Routes Métropolitaines (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
frapacd84 - Vaucluse Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
geo - Georgia
gbnb - Great Britain B Roads
gbrrr: United Kingdom Ring Roads (si404) reviewer: t.b.d.
grc - Greece (no signed system)
hrvz - Croatia Županijske Ceste (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
hunh - Hungary (not signed)
irlr - Ireland Regional Roads
irlorb: Ireland Orbital Routes
islf - Iceland Fjallvegir
imnb - Isle of Man B Roads
isrr - Israel Regional Routes
itasr - Italy Strade Regionale (signed?)
jeyb - Jersey B Roads
kaz - Kazakhstan
kgz - Kyrgyzstan
ltuk - Lithuania Krašto Keliai
luxcr - Luxembourg Chemin Repris (potential tier 5 system but there is already a large tier 4 system)
lvap - Latvia Reģionālie Autoceļi
mdag - Moldova Drumuri Regionale
mkdr - North Macedonia Regional Roads (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
mlt - Malta (not signed)
mner - Montenegro Regional Roads
nirb - Northern Ireland B Roads
nldp - Netherlands Provinciale Wegen
nldrw - Netherlands Ringwegen
nlds - Netherlands Stadsroutes
norfv - Norway Primære Fylkesveier
norr - Norway Ringveiene i Oslo
poldw - Poland Droga Wojewódzka
prtn - Portugal Estradas Nacionais (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
rksrr - Kosovo Rrugët Regjionale
roudj - Romania Drumuri Județene
srbr - Serbia Državni Putevi IIA (si404) reviewer: michih
srbrb - Serbia Državni Putevi IIB (si404) reviewer: michih
svkii - Slovakia Cesta II. Triedy
svnr - Slovenia Regionalna Ceste
swel - Sweden Primära Länsvägar
tur - Turkey
ukrn - Ukraine National Roads (si404) reviewer: t.b.d.


Tourist routes
chegts - Switzerland Grand Tour of Switzerland
dnkmr - Denmark Margueritruten
eurtr - Europe select Tourist and Scenic Routes (si404, michih) reviewer(s): t.b.d.
gbrtrl - United Kingdom Trails (si404) reviewer: t.b.d.
irlwaw - Ireland Wild Atlantic Way
nirtr - Northern Ireland Tourist Routes
norntv - Norway Nasjonale Turistveger
sctntr - Scotland National Tourist Routes

[mapcat]

gbrtr - UK Tourist and Scenic Routes (dunno if there's another potential system)

B roads?

[michih]

gbrtr - UK Tourist and Scenic Routes (dunno if there's another potential system)

B roads?

Are they signed? If they are, does it mean that gbrtr routes should be... tier 6? 

[si404]

Are they signed?

Usually.

If they are, does it mean that gbrtr routes should be... tier 6? 

Why?

[michih]

If they are, does it mean that gbrtr routes should be... tier 6? 

Why?

I don't know, that's why I've asked
A roads are tier 4 and B roads are tier 5 because of the classification.
I think gbrtr is not classified at all but according to the road standard, gbrtr could be tier 4 or tier 5. So, why is gbrtr tier 5 instead of tier 4?

[si404]

possible work-around for Germany that doesn't involve breaking pre-existing routes: different systems for each one, and where clashes exist, something to distinguish (state letters?) each one - eg deu.bwl001. You might want to make use of the abbreviations field.

deube Berlin ?
deubb Brandenburg ?
deubw Brandenburg Landesstraßen
deuby Bayern Staatsstraßen
deuhb Bremen ?
deuhh Hamburg ?
deuhe Hessen Landesstraßen
deumv Mecklenburg-Vorpommern Landesstraßen
deuni Niedersachsen Landesstraßen
deunw Nordrhein-Westfalen Landesstraßen
deurp Rheinland-Pfalz Landesstraßen
deusl Saarland Landesstraßen
deusn Sachsen Staatsstraßen
deust Sachsen-Anhalt Landesstraßen
deush Schleswig-Holstein ?
deuth Thüringen Landesstraßen

[michih]

Thanks.
Does "different systems for each one" mean, I should create 16 tier 5 systems for the only region = country? Why w/o "l", deube instead of deubel?
I don't get what "You might want to make use of the abbreviations field." means. Why is it needed if we have 16 systems...

[si404]

Does "different systems for each one" mean, I should create 16 tier 5 systems for the only region = country?

I guess you could do it as one system if you want.

Why w/o "l", deube instead of deubel?

Might as well keep it short!

I don't get what "You might want to make use of the abbreviations field." means. Why is it needed if we have 16 systems...

You can't have two routes with the same list file entry of <region><route><banner><abbrev>, so two L1's, one in Saxony and one in Bremen, would need distinguishing from each other, even if they are different systems.

[michih]

If I got you right... 1 or 16 systems in 1 region distinguished in list files like:

DEU L1st L2 L3 --> German L1 in Sachsen-Anhalt traveled b/n L2 wp and L3 wp.
DEU L2st L1 L3 --> German L2 in Sachsen-Anhalt traveled b/n L1 wp and L3 wp.
DEU L1ni L2 L3 --> German L1 in Niedersachsen traveled b/n L2 wp and L3 wp.
DEU L1sh L2 L3 --> German L1 in Schleswig-Holstein traveled b/n L2 wp and L3 wp.
...

I think 16 systems are better first but could be merged once they are completed.

[peperodriguez2710]

esp - Spain (roads signed with orange signs?)

They are first class autonomical roads, that means that are freeways or roads like the ones in the National Road network [N-xxx] but managed by the government of the different autonomical communities.

Have a nice day!

[michih]

frad - France Routes Départementales (signed but not unique - range from freeways to tracks)

I think the latter comment "range from freeways to tracks" is from Si and I absolutely agree that it's not manageable. I think we could add a frasd system one day - France Select Routes Départementales - similar to the existing cansph system (Canada Select Provincial Highways).

frasd should minimum contain the expressway(-like) routes or we could go with OSM categories primary / secondary highway. The latter means, "orange" routes and maybe "yellow" routes but not white ones.

The issue with not unique numbering (only within each of 99 departments) could be managed like the currently in use workaround for deul (use department code as banner).

[cinx]

What is the correct way to map deuhel roads?
DEU ..... ?

[michih]

What is the correct way to map deuhel roads?
DEU ..... ?

It's the same way like for every other route. Open the highway browser and copy what's displayed for "LIST name".

http://tm.teresco.org/hb/index.php?r=deu.hel3001he
--> DEU L3001HE

btw: Once we'll have split Germany into regions, it will be DEU-HE L3001.

[michih]

gbrtr - UK Tourist and Scenic Routes (si404)
gbnb - Great Britain B Roads (si404)

What's the correct system prefix, gbn or gbr? The country code is GBR but the system names are gbnm, gbnam, gbna and gbnb. Only gbrtr is using gbr and the system name is UK instead of Great Britain!?

[si404]

gbrtr - UK Tourist and Scenic Routes (si404)
gbnb - Great Britain B Roads (si404)

What's the correct system prefix, gbn or gbr?

gbnb.

The country code is GBR but the system names are gbnm, gbnam, gbna and gbnb.

Yes, the gbnm, gbnam, gbna and gbnb systems are Great Britain specific, rather than UK-wide, with Northern Irish specific separate systems nirm, niram, nira, nirb due to the separate numbering system. If we have a gbrb system, it would have to include the Northern Irish roads in that, which is just silly as they are clearly a separate system with it's own numbering system (though what precisely that system is is a mystery as it seems pretty random).

Only gbrtr is using gbr and the system name is UK instead of Great Britain!?

Because it contains non-British routes and is a UK-wide system...