Asia-Pacific Master Thread (UNESCAP / ESCWA)

[yakra]

I think our primary source is OSM, isn't it?

I think that by "primary sources", Duke87 means sources direct from the government agencies responsible for the highways -- or as close as we can get to that.
OSM itself can be pretty unreliable in places, Manitoba being a notable example.

[Duke87]

but I can't check it against primary sources

I think our primary source is OSM, isn't it?

I'm using the academic definition of "primary source" here - i.e. the source material for the facts, not a second-hand account of them.

So no, OSM is not a primary source, it is a secondary source. An official DOT map is a primary source since it's published by the agency that maintains the roads. An official route log is also a primary source for the same reason. And while GMSV is technically a secondary source, we trust that their pictures of signs posted in the field (the signs themselves are primary sources) are not altered so as to change what they say.

[michih]

Ok, thanks!

[michih]

Am I right that
- ausm - Australia Motorways
- asiahr - UNESCAP / ASEAN Asian Highways (for review)
- nzlsh - New Zealand State Highways

are ready for review?

I could do nzlsh since I already reviewed nzlmot 2 years ago.
Anyone interested in ausm or asiahr?

[si404]

You'll also want to do the tourist routes at the same time when looking at NZ.

Australia's main routes (M, A, NH) are ready for review.

Japan is after Italy in my regions to clean up.

The Asian Highways I'll just go through at some point (v low priority) as no one else is bothered with them.

[michih]

You'll also want to do the tourist routes at the same time when looking at NZ.

It's missing on the list though

Australia's main routes (M, A, NH) are ready for review.

NH? You mean ausn? And ausnb? Please gimme some chocolate first However, I'm also happy if anyone else wants to review one or all Australian systems. I think that I won't do it "soon" - not in 2019.

[michih]

Ok, nzlsh is mine but Australian systems are still t.b.d. - too much chocolate at once makes you fat

[Duke87]

I'll go ahead and take on review of Australia - should certainly be able to have that done before year's end.

[michih]

Should we add Tajikistan to the UNECE or to the UNESCAP / ESCWA overview thread?

The system is already active.

A UNECE list* of routes has been posted on SSC. It's signed. The map should be based on the UNECE list. I have not compared whether it's concurrent to our system. We don't indicate our source, I guess it was just wikipedia.

*The document name is "draft.stateprogram.transport.devt.2010.2025"

[si404]

The map should be based on the UNECE list.

It has the RB19 we and OSM have, but isn't on the list.

I guess it was just wikipedia.

Nope, OSM.

[michih]

I'm currently peer-reviewing two large European systems. I guess that this should be finished in the first months of the new year. All European systems which are ready for a peer-review and were not developed by me will be peer-reviewed then. Asia has systems which are already quite long in preview and might (or should) be peer-reviewed next.

Tier 1:
2016-04-21;China;chng;China National Expressways;preview - needs a huge revision before being ready for a peer-review due to hundreds of road openings
2016-04-21;India;index;India National Expressways;preview - ready for peer-review ?
2016-05-01;Philippines;phle;Philippines Expressways;preview - was already peer-reviewed
2017-09-02;Japan;jpne;Japan Expressways;preview - ready for peer-review after clean up

Japan is after Italy in my regions to clean up.

Tier 4:
2017-02-28;Sri Lanka;lkaa;Sri Lanka A Roads;preview - ready for peer-review ?
2017-06-13;Nepal;nplh;Nepal Highways;preview - ready for peer-review ?
2018-07-14;Russia;rusa;Russia Access Roads;preview - to be reviewed together with still in devel rusr system ?

No hurry, there is still time for final checks before releasing the systems for a peer-review.

[si404]

2016-04-21;India;index;India National Expressways;preview - ready for peer-review ?

Needs Japan-style updates. Also need to check numbers of intersecting national highways (per comment made about the numbers not being right in places)

2017-02-28;Sri Lanka;lkaa;Sri Lanka A Roads;preview - ready for peer-review ?
2017-06-13;Nepal;nplh;Nepal Highways;preview - ready for peer-review ?

Yes, but low priority.

2018-07-14;Russia;rusa;Russia Access Roads;preview - to be reviewed together with still in devel rusr system ?

It makes sense to do them together, so hold off.

[michih]

2017-02-28;Sri Lanka;lkaa;Sri Lanka A Roads;preview - ready for peer-review ?
2017-06-13;Nepal;nplh;Nepal Highways;preview - ready for peer-review ?

Yes, but low priority.

Gave them chocolate. They are quite small systems and might be done as variety to a peer-review of a large system anywhere down the road - since you mentioned a "limit" of about "90 preview systems".

[Bickendan]

I'm officially developing India.
I note that the National Expressways is listed as 'index'; shouldn't it be 'indne'? (I'm not currently working on states that have any numbered NE routes, and I'm deliberately omitting them at the moment for West Bengal as NH 12, 16, and 19 all 100% overlap them).
Currently:
INDNH -> Bickendan
INDAH -> Bickendan
INDWB -> Bickendan
ETA: Correct any state codes I added on the state list in the OP please.

[si404]

I note that the National Expressways is listed as 'index'; shouldn't it be 'indne'?

Yes, the numbering having happened after I drafted the routes initially.