Spain Carretera Nacionales (espn) + Regional Routes (tier 5)

[michih]

Speaking of that, Catalonia's tier-5 roads are ready for review.

I'll review Catalonia once I've done Poland.

Should I post it here or one thread per region? I think the systems are small and one thread for all should be fine.

[michih]

I had a look at Catalonia.

First, before reporting too much BS, what's your source for the routes?

For instance:
Why is C-352 Granollers beltway missing?
Why is C260 Figueres - Roses missing?
Why is C152 near Olot missing?

Only routes signed red or blue?


C14x:
Exit "9" of concurrent T11 missing


T11:
Should be extended from A27 to N340


C12:
CarTos -> CamiTos
CamCom -> CamiFig
+X345733 is off
+X526033 is off
T731/T714/C12B: Really wp at the roundabout? Shouldn't it be on the main carriageway? General issue I'd like to have clarified before checking the other routes!
GSJ west of T731, CarEbre
New wp http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=40.932312&lon=0.484841 ("N230b" but with green signs, not an espn route)

[si404]

First, before reporting too much BS, what's your source for the routes?

Spanish and Catalan language wikipedia, google maps sign colours. Three digit roads are green-signed, two digit are red/blue signed, which works out well!

Only routes signed red or blue?

Yep.

T731/T714/C12B: Really wp at the roundabout? Shouldn't it be on the main carriageway? General issue I'd like to have clarified before checking the other routes!

I treated these as roundabouts with filters, but looking at the layout in streetview, it seems that they are very much T-junctions with a roundabout right next to the main road. Changed.

[michih]

C12bal:
C12F is off
Routed via newly opened Balaguer bypass now


C13x:
New wp http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=41.706033&lon=0.757713
LV9047 is off
+X753883 is off
+X969196 is off
+X854334 is off
+X961726 is off
New wp http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=41.786465&lon=0.827901


C14x:
TP2335 is off
C14z is off (concurrent C26x too)
C1412b is off (concurrent C26x too)
+X240260 is off
L401 is not indicated on OSM nor GM


C15x:
ValAno -> CarPiusXII ?
New wp http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=41.397982&lon=1.707425
New wp http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=41.315885&lon=1.724440 ?


C16x:
B40 is off
C1411a_A is not indicated on GM nor GSV (Oct 2018), OSM indicates C149b (concurrent C26 too)
C1411a_B is C1411z on OSM/GM, no sign on GSV (Oct 2018)
C1411a_C is C1411z on OSM/GM
C1411a_D -> C1411a


C17x:
GSJ http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=41.476769&lon=2.185217
AveMJC -> AviMJC
CarJoaMiro source? I would move the wpt to http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=41.494891&lon=2.184675
CarBarPui -> N152z
New wp http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=41.506113&lon=2.198220
CarFWS source? Nothing on OSM nor GM
C155_W -> C155
C155_E -> C352 according to GSV/GM (and further to the east on OSM too) or N152z according to GSV mileposts/OSM
New wp http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=41.596412&lon=2.263693
C352 -> C352_N ?
CarQue -> N152z
GSJ http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=41.717626&lon=2.272872
85 and 87 wps are positioned on the northbound carriageway but should be moved b/n the carriageways


C25x:
131 is off
189 is missing (replace +X256637)
195 is not an exit and should be removed
217 should be moved to the underpass


C26:
L903 is off
CarSanAnt -> CarSantAnt
Replace LV4241 by more important wp at http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=41.994951&lon=1.519933
CarCasAre is off
BP4654 is off


C26fig:
Exceeds limits b/n N260 and AP7


C28:
CarBag -> CarEst

[michih]

C12bal:
AvePaiCat -> AviPaiCat


C31vil:
C246a_CarN is off


C31pal(x):
GSJ http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=41.905263&lon=3.146601
Move GI632 to the center of the roundabout
GIV6215 is off
It's the longest C31 route, should be renamed to C31(x)


C31(x):
AvMer -> AviMer
It's not the longest C31 route, should be renamed to C31bad(x)


C33(x):
New wp http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=41.443591&lon=2.186607


C35(x):
AveArb -> AviArb
B510 is off
GSJ at http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=41.733475&lon=2.603797


C35mon:
Extend at west end to the roundabout ?
New wp http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=41.568382&lon=2.251076 ?
CamiCanRiba source? Cannot find it... Just CanRiba or CanRibaSer for the location? wp is also a little bit off


C37:
New wp http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=41.276629&lon=1.239599
CamiVellMon --> CarMon
+X704903 is off
+X876964 is off
CarDucs is off
Can -> CamiNouCan
Cal is off
Sal -> BV1101


C37tor:
SantAndVola -> BV5224


C42:
FontQui -> CarRibEbre


C44:
T318 is off
TV3031 is not a GSJ, no access at wp


C51:
T240 is off


C53:
LV3028 is off
New wp http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=41.782689&lon=0.837450
New wp http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=41.659531&lon=1.084031 (limits are also currently exceeded)


C55:
B113_E is off
ElsCom --> AviCom
CarPau -> CarCol or better -> BV4501
New wp http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=41.778085&lon=1.790460
+X291859 is off
+X789934 is off
C1410z_CorZ -> C1410z_CorE


C58(x):
CarPinGre should be moved to the overpass at AviBar
BV1212 is off


C59:
RonFar -> N152z (or AviBur)
Ave11Set -> AviOnzeSet
B140 should be moved to the northern underpass (there's also a ramp for southbound c/w)
BP1432 is off


C62:
BV4005 is off
+X401289 is off


C63:
GIV5514 is off
C253 is off
Replace GI542 by more important N141e at the roundabout
AviFar is off
CarSanPau is off


C65(x):
Lla_E -> C65z_E (or CarCam)
Lla_N -> C65z_N


C66:
BisEmp_S -> Car6Oct
BisEmp_S -> CarAig
C255Z is off
GIV6701 is off
GIV6708 is off
GSJ at  http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=42.026296&lon=2.842482
Ban_E -> CarBoiJus

[michih]

I'll start the second round when the latest pull request will be merged in and live on the site.
I'll be traveling soon but I think that I can make another review before if it's a small system. Andalusia next?

[michih]

C14(x):
N240a is not signed, not in HB. N240 wp name just east of it is "Mon_S". Rename too?


C15(x):
C33 -> NIIa because it's a route of a "higher" (tier 4) system?


C17(x):
C58 -> C33/C58


C31B:
N340a -> N340


C33:
C58 ->    C17/C58


C42:
N235 -> N235_S


C51:
If you don't agree with my C15 suggestion, N240 needs to be renamed to C37


C58(x):
Same story: B10/B20 -> C58 ?


espct review done!

[si404]

Andalusia next?

Small system, pretty much all also part of eursf (until the system is activated - cf what I've done with espct). Should hopefully be very easy.

espct is activated in tonight's update: https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/2800

[michih]

espct is activated in tonight's update: https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/2800

updates.csv: espct.c013pra -> espct.c031pra

[michih]

Andalusia... is kinda problem child - even for Spanish affairs, see upthread...

@Si: Can we agree that the following routes (their freeway segments) should be added to eursf system or do you have other plans for them, e.g. a potential tier 6 system?

Green signs but freeway according to OSM:
A-334
A-383
A-357
A-376
A-382
A-480
A-483
A-491
A-497
A-1051
A-3050

Yellow but freeway according to OSM:
A-7056
A-8009

blue but one carriageway only:
CA-36 ?

[si404]

Green signs but freeway according to OSM:
A-334
A-383
A-357
A-376
A-382
A-480
A-483
A-491
A-497
A-1051
A-3050

Yellow but freeway according to OSM:
A-7056
A-8009

I can add them to eursf.

blue but one carriageway only:
CA-36 ?

Is that not there? IIRC, it's not because its not signed.

[michih]

Green signs but freeway according to OSM:blue but one carriageway only:
CA-36 ?

Is that not there? IIRC, it's not because its not signed.

It is signed according to GSV:
- https://www.google.com/maps/@36.5230472,-6.2226345,3a,15y,242.96h,104.55t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1smHJCndYg1JF95QbykUMFHA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
- https://www.google.com/maps/@36.4949256,-6.2660913,3a,15y,132.29h,75.57t/data=!3m9!1e1!3m7!1sNNy9vZ0AoJg-534yf5jlHw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!9m2!1b1!2i36

[michih]

CA-36 end point should be renamed from N443 to CA33. CA33 is indicated on OSM, GM and GSV. N443 is only indicated on GM, and it's not in HB.

[michih]

A92G:
CamJau is off
CtraAta -> CalSal or CalLeg
AvHis -> AveHis
GR3310 -> GR3304, confirmed by OSM, GM and GSV


A92N:
+x01 should be a visible wp
about one out of two wps are a little bit off
Move AN/MC to the border


A92:
1 is off
2 is off
4 is off
Move 135 to the underpass to the west
exit 200 missing
exit 235 does not exist anymore but a new GSJ will be opened a bit to the east for A44 Granada bypass in 2020 (or later), I guess that will get 235 as the next exit is 236, I would move the wp to the future junction
Remove exit 293, it is concurrent to exit 292, just the same situation we have at all numbered routes based on km posts


A316
A301/A401 -> A401 but
A301/A401 - ToA32 segment is indicated A316G on OSM and GM shows it and(!) the branch to A32 being A316 (w/o G), should route begin at A32 exit 31?
Bae -> 10 (GSV)
Bej -> 15 (GSV)
21 -> 20 (GSV, both directions)
Exceeds limits b/n 40 and 44
44 is not an exit


A318:
SE757 -> SE9203 (OSM, GM, GSV)
CV55 is indicated on GM but OSM and GSV show CO6222


Red Basica also includes some (green) routes. I guess we don't wanna include them for rassist reasons?



eursf:


A480:
Source for exit number 4?


A491:
27 is not concurrent to NVI wp (n004pue)


A1051:
New wp http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=36.815813&lon=-2.599297
1 is not concurrent to N340a wp


A491:
Extend at west end to A2079?


A7056:
Should be added as it is fully freeway including "Autovia" signs
It's branching off A357

Leaving out A3050 and A8009 is fine to me.


MA20:
7 meets A357 wp but there's another wp 9 very close to it which needs to be removed



Andalusian Round 1 done!

[michih]

@Si, if you can check my Andalusian review suggestions "soon", I could make round 2 on Friday. If not, I'm not sure when I'll have time. I guess late June at the latest...