itass: Italy Strade Statali

[yakra]

Dropping this here because it seems this is the de facto Italy Split topic.
Making a separate post for this in case it's appropriate to split this one and merge elsewhere.
(Previous post, in case that does happen)

There are a couple similar examples in itaa2_con.csv, though these look like separate ConnectedRoutes that should be merged, a la KY/IN I-265FutLou:

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itaa2;RA5;;Raccordo Autostradale Scalo Sicignano - Potenza;itacam.ra005
itaa2;RA5;;Raccordo Autostradale Scalo Sicignano - Potenza;itabas.ra005

itaa2;RA6;;Raccordo Autostradale Bettolle-Perugia;itatos.ra006
itaa2;RA6;;Raccordo Autostradale Bettolle-Perugia;itaumb.ra006


[yakra]

And one more for eure2_con.csv:

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eure2;E45;;;itatre.e45,itaven.e45,italom.e45,itaemi.e45,itatos.e45,itaumb.e45,italaz.e45ort,itaumb.e45ort,italaz.e45bau,itaumb.e45cas,italaz.e45,itacam.e45,itabas.e45,itacal.e45
eure2;E45;;;itasic.e45

eure2;E74;;;italig.e74
eure2;E74;;;itapie.e74


[michih]

Is it the last transfer or do they plan another one?

ANAS website doesn't explicitly say, but there are reasons to believe this will be the last one.

For instance, 15 out of 20 regions (11 + 4) have been addressed. The remaining 5 regions are the so-called "special status" ones (Aosta valley, Sicily, Sardinia, Friuli-Venezia Giulia and Trentino-Alto Adige) which have different rules in their relation with the central State. For instance, the 2001 law that devolved those ANAS roads to the regions did not involve special status regions in the first place.

EDIT: Actually, my previous statement is false.
Roads in Tuscany have been transferred back to ANAS in both occasions, so the regions addressed are 14. Veneto is the only "normal status" one that wasn't addressed.

So apparently regions can be managed in rounds, meaning that there is no way to know if there will be more instances also for regions already addressed.

Just out of curiosity, is Friuli-Venezia Giulia (or any other "special status region") addressed now?

[Spinoza]

Is it the last transfer or do they plan another one?

ANAS website doesn't explicitly say, but there are reasons to believe this will be the last one.

For instance, 15 out of 20 regions (11 + 4) have been addressed. The remaining 5 regions are the so-called "special status" ones (Aosta valley, Sicily, Sardinia, Friuli-Venezia Giulia and Trentino-Alto Adige) which have different rules in their relation with the central State. For instance, the 2001 law that devolved those ANAS roads to the regions did not involve special status regions in the first place.

EDIT: Actually, my previous statement is false.
Roads in Tuscany have been transferred back to ANAS in both occasions, so the regions addressed are 14. Veneto is the only "normal status" one that wasn't addressed.

So apparently regions can be managed in rounds, meaning that there is no way to know if there will be more instances also for regions already addressed.

Just out of curiosity, is Friuli-Venezia Giulia (or any other "special status region") addressed now?

Nope.
Maybe the status of these special regions road won't be changed at all.

[michih]

Thanks.

[michih]

In 2022 4 new national roads have been issued in Piedmont region: https://www.skyscrapercity.com/threads/484944/post-180995331

[michih]

@panda80: https://travelmapping.net/devel/datacheck.php?rg=ITA&show=LONG_UNDERSCORE

The wps are (currently) not in use can could safely be changed from 4-letter to 3-letter.

https://travelmapping.net/devel/manual/wayptlabels.php#over2

Choose 3-letter suffixes for nearby towns

[neroute2]

This seems to run from SS720 at ViaBeg west to SS718 at ViaLam.

[michih]

System in preview. Please merge: https://forum.travelmapping.net/index.php?topic=2095

[Duke87]

The name of the system should be Italy Strade Statali (plural), not Italy Strada Statale (singular)

[si404]

The name of the system should be Italy Strade Statali (plural), not Italy Strada Statale (singular)

It is in the database already - just not in this forum thread. Editing first message...

[Duke87]

Few things which I mentioned elsewhere but for tidiness will throw here as well:

I'd combine SS1Liv with SS1 as an implied concurrency.
SS1Liv: needs a point at the A12Liv ramps
SS258: missing route, need to add.
SS714DirFra: could use a point at Contrada Ceretto (I got off A14 but then turned off here)


The tier 4 master thread mentions this system is being reworked on account of a lot of route maintenance transfer occurring, what is the status of that? Is a more systematic peer review plausible to undertake yet?

[michih]

Sardinia

SS131Dir (Olbia) misses a wp for a GSJ.
SS729 and concurrent E840 miss a wp for a GSJ. btw, 'ViaVen' just east of it is slightly off
SS389Dir (Udduso)'s east end is at the wrong junction.
SS195Racc (Casteddu)'s concurrency with E25 (Cagliari is broken.
SS195 misses three wps at junctions leading to the parallel expressway: +X657061 should be a visible wp, another wp is required in Santu Perdu (north of ViaEur), and finally a wp is required south of ViaEur.

[michih]

The tier 4 master thread mentions this system is being reworked on account of a lot of route maintenance transfer occurring, what is the status of that?

If memory serves, it's incomplete since not all regions have published their data. We don't expect that coming anytime soon. Maybe never.

Is a more systematic peer review plausible to undertake yet?

I think it could make sense to peer review the system by regions once the split into regions will be live. Minimum for those regions with adequate data.

[michih]

Sicily

SS640 should be moved onto new alignment west of Caltanissetta.
SS189 south of SS118/SS122 is not indicated on OSM nor GM nor GSV. Truncate?