MD: MD 222 Concurrency With US 1 and MD 222 Truck Route

[Markkos1992]

I originally clinched MD 222 in December and had a hard time afterwards proving whether it is concurrent with US 1 or not.

Having said that, I drove this part of US 1 Friday and am wondering if the MD 222 concurrency (cannot remember if the concurrency is posted SB) and the MD 222 Truck Route (saw no signs for it) even exist?

[yakra]

I originally clinched MD 222 in December and had a hard time afterwards proving whether it is concurrent with US 1 or not.

Having said that, I drove this part of US 1 Friday and am wondering if the MD 222 concurrency (cannot remember if the concurrency is posted SB)

Connection to US222 notwithstanding, the Cecil County HLR has an end at US1, with no concurrency. GMSV supports this.
There's this, but it could be considered a case of a Missing TO, much like this...

and the MD 222 Truck Route (saw no signs for it) even exist?

There are plenty of signs visible in GMSV -- in areas where imagery hasn't been updated since September 2008.
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I have to wonder if this is like the slew of "Stupid Truck Routes!" posted in Pennsylvania to detour around aging weight-restricted bridges. A number of these were added to the HB back in the CHM days, and some of them have been slowly removed as the bridges are replaced and the truck routes cease to be signed.
Indeed, if you zoom in northwest of the MD276 point, N of Granite Ave and S of where MD222 crosses under the rail line, you'll see a recently replaced bridge if you compare the ESRI WorldImagery and Mapbox Satellite views.

Or not? https://www.usends.com/222.html

In 1995, US 222 was truncated back to its old south terminus at US 1 in Conowingo.  The road through Port Deposit (between Conowingo and Perryville) is narrow and not very conducive to truck traffic.  So Maryland decided to remove the US route designation from that segment.  Instead, they signed it as MD 222, and then they directed truck traffic to use a more suitable route (namely to the east on US 1, and then south via MD 276).

I'll ask Mike Pruett if he knows anything about it...

[yakra]

If MD222TrkPor gets the axe, the following labels will need to be fixed:

MD MD222 MD275/222Trk
MD MD273 MD276/222Trk
MD MD276 MD275/222Trk

[mapmikey]

The HLR lists show no concurrencies (verified by looking at MD 2-4 in Calvert County) so that probably can't be used as a reference on this question.

The concurrency was posted from US 222 south as late as 2017 per https://www.usends.com/222.html

Wikipedia shows the truck route (which goes back to the US 222 days) as being removed ~2016.

[yakra]

The HLR lists show no concurrencies (verified by looking at MD 2-4 in Calvert County) so that probably can't be used as a reference on this question.

In that example, the HLR has "BEG X-REF W/ MD 2" and "END X-REF W/ MD 2" entries. Other concurrencies I've checked have similar entries too. The Cecil County MD 222 listing doesn't have these.

The concurrency was posted from US 222 south as late as 2017 per https://www.usends.com/222.html

I'd call this ambiguous given the context though. That was the only MD222 signage at US1 I found in GMSV.

There's this, but it could be considered a case of a Missing TO, much like this...

Wikipedia shows the truck route (which goes back to the US 222 days) as being removed ~2016.

Hm. The sources in that section look fishy. How can Joe Wikipedia Editor claim that the statement "Signs for MD 222 Truck were removed by 2016 and replaced with signs directing trucks to I-95 and US 40" is backed up by this Google Maps link? I can almost accept that it's gone, but want to be a little more certain; I'll wait till I hear back from Mike Pruett...

[mapmikey]

My apologies...I didn't look at the line above where I was looking regarding the MD 2-4 concurrency.  i then verified a few others were also described this way.  The MD 222 entry from 1999 HLR also does not show a US 1 concurrency.

I have the 1995 Cecil County resolution to downgrade US 222 and it does not explicitly say what happens to the US 1 concurrency.

There are at least 3 locations that can be shown to have had its MD 222 Truck sign replaced by an I-95/US 40 assembly:

US 1 at MD 273: https://goo.gl/maps/kM1W3GpujaD2 (2016) and https://goo.gl/maps/MBGiXbaP5A72 (2008).
MD 276 at MD 273: https://goo.gl/maps/xnycvB6ryhS2 (2016) and https://goo.gl/maps/ma5aMLwMzDq (2008).
MD 276 at MD 273: https://goo.gl/maps/A5nyZvY4htD2 (2016) and https://goo.gl/maps/VVg2hhmVRb52 (2008)

[yakra]

Combined with the OP, that works for me.
Shall I go ahead & truncate MD222 and delete MD222TrkPor, then?

[Markkos1992]

The concurrency was posted from US 222 south as late as 2017 per https://www.usends.com/222.html

I'd call this ambiguous given the context though. That was the only MD222 signage at US1 I found in GMSV.

I will note that I believe that posting was there when I drove that part of US 222 SB in December 2017.  I was traveling US 1 NB last Friday.

[yakra]

Right. But given the context, I'm inclined to view it more as a case of a missing TO. See also: NORTH {222}

[Markkos1992]

The concurrency was posted from US 222 south as late as 2017 per https://www.usends.com/222.html

I'd call this ambiguous given the context though. That was the only MD222 signage at US1 I found in GMSV.

I will note that I believe that posting was there when I drove that part of US 222 SB in December 2017.  I was traveling US 1 NB last Friday.

Combined with the OP, that works for me.
Shall I go ahead & truncate MD222 and delete MD222TrkPor, then?

I drove US 222 SB to US 1 Saturday Morning as I was also finishing up clinching US 1 in PA and NJ as part of my drive beyond the new I-95 /I-276 interchange.

The MD 222 posting is still there, but there were no signs for the MD 222 Truck Route.   Whether we still need to debate about MD 222 or not, I am confident in that MD222TrkPor can be deleted.

[yakra]

https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/2251
I haven't truncated MD222 itself, yet. Still think it should happen though.
Any last objections?

[Wadsteckel]

The only objection I have was having to drive the truck route last year when it was supposedly declassified in 2016.   

Whatever is needed to be accurate, I'm game.    Thankful for the hard work everyone here does as I enjoy adding to my travels on a weekly basis.

-Ed S

[yakra]

https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/2269