usaal: Alabama State Routes

[yakra]

The US43 labels on AL69 look OK:
If a non-exit-numbered highway is a cross road a third time, a suffixless label is an option.
I've not looked into the other comments.

[formulanone]

AL 83
CR34 -> CR30/34
There are two CRs signed here, as per GSV. The CR30 shield might indicate a nearby CR30.

AL 85 - all good

AL 86
McDRd - needs to be more centered, off by over 1000 feet

AL 87
Recommend adding a waypoint for CR17, so it matches a nearby one for AL 153

Recommend adding a waypoint for CR474, so it matches a nearby one for AL 189

[michih]

What is a "long underscore"?

http://travelmapping.net/devel/manual/wayptlabels.php#over2

Suffix with more than 4 characters or exactly 4 characters but the 4th character is not upper-case:
CR1_Bibb -> CR1_Bib
CR55_Dale -> CR55_Dal

The general label truncation rule doesn't apply to suffixes.

I didn't saw a comment on this from froggie. Your regions are the only regions with four character label suffixes beside China (not touched for very long time) and Chile.

https://travelmapping.net/devel/datacheck.php?rg=AL,MN,MS,VT&show=LONG_UNDERSCORE

[formulanone]

AL 88 good; limited signage in GSV
AL 89 good
AL 91 good
AL 92 good
AL 93 good
AL 94 good, no GSV coverage
AL 95 good
AL 96 good
AL 97

• Would recommend a point for CR11 (Burgamy Swamp Road), which intersects AL 97 to the north and south.
• Nearby CR19 doesn't seem to have a sign (however, GSV is 15 years old through there) and only meets 97 at a T-intersection.

AL 99 good

[formulanone]

While looking for SR 100 shields in Street View though Andalusia, I found some AL 15 shields; normally it's a hidden route number for US 29. This is most certainly the old routing of US 29 through Andalusia.

Posted at Sanford Road (AL 100) on Three Notch Road
Posted on east-facing AL 55 at Stanley Avenue
Posted on southbound AL 55 (Stanley Road) as a concurrency (?)
Stanley Road at Three Notch, with "To US 29" posted alongside, and a AL 15 South shield on the other side of the road.
AL 15 posted on US 29 South at US 84
AL 15's beginning at AL 55 from US 29

Sure enough, it's on the ALDOT Covington County Milepost map.



Based on this, I presume we shall need an entry for AL 15 (just this part) in the HB.

[formulanone]

AL 100
Unsigned, no shields on GSV. Posted on official ALDOT maps.

AL 101
US72ALT/20 > US72Alt/20
CR314 is correct in field and Google Maps, incorrect on OSM

AL 102
US43 > US43/171

AL 103 good
AL 104 good

AL 105
CR36 also exists downstream, but paired with CR39. Do we use CR36_E since it's posted with directional banners?

[lkefct]

AL 283: In addition to the segment along Cedar Bluff road, this route is posted concurrently along US 411 North (well really southward and eastward, but ostensibly US411 North) to its intersection with Business 411. GSV confirms what I saw out "in the field" on Wednesday.

https://goo.gl/maps/8R3Yb6qBzcuUgUP8A

https://goo.gl/maps/Ux4Pa7UG8V3dSKLU9

https://goo.gl/maps/W6c7XJo5QgwQve7o6

https://goo.gl/maps/w9BuoA2w5qzzH6So8

[formulanone]

AL 106: all good

AL 107: all good

AL 108: Not sure of the "22". It's Exit 15 on I-85, and there is no exit number from AL 108 to I-85. Propose just changing it to "I-85"?

AL 109: all good
 
AL 110: all good

AL 111: South end appears to no longer end at AL 212, but at AL 14; ALDOT Milepost maps confirm this. There is a straggler Mile Marker 1 on the deprecated section near 212, but the presence of "To 111" shields on AL 212 seem to be a good enough reason to truncate the route. (Looks like the change was as of March 1st, 2021.)

Truck AL 111: all good; despite an incorrect Truck banner on US 231...

Side note...I have to check out the Bibb Graves Bridge near AL 212 in Wetumpka one day, looks neat. Just a guess that the low-ish clearance is why it's not part of SR 212.

[oscar]

AL 85's north endpoint, AL 248's east endpoint, and AL 249's south endpoint should be changed from FortRuc to FortNov, now that the fort has been renamed.

[formulanone]

This is to set a reminder that Alabama SR 304 is now somewhat signed over a short distance of Huntsville–Browns Ferry Road from US 31 to a point near Bucee's at I-65. Will check it out on Friday.

However, it does not yet show on the ALDOT Milepost maps for Limestone County, nor the 2023 state highway map (insets, main map, exit listings).

Edit: It's signed briefly from the I-65 exit ramps and a short snip of the route itself.


No shields present on nor from US 31 towards I-65, though it is still under construction.

[kjslaughter]

AL 108: Not sure of the "22". It's Exit 15 on I-85, and there is no exit number from AL 108 to I-85. Propose just changing it to "I-85"?

I went down AL 108 last week.  The "22" is the exit number marked souithbound, which I assume is the future exit number if and when they build the entire southern bypass and reroute I-85.

https://www.google.com/maps/@32.3460421,-86.0646975,3a,75y,197.22h,96.89t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQafs7Gx7dCyLNdQAqCxFoA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

[vespertine]

Just drove through Eutaw recently, and I think the routing for AL14 differs than what we currently have. Signage going eastbound on AL14 takes you down Mesopotamia St all the way to Wilson St, then Wilson to Boligee/US11. Westbound AL14, shows the similar turns with these two signs (US11 to Wilson) (Wilson to Mesopotamia).

There are signs on Tuscaloosa St/US11/US43 (sign here and in background) that point to AL14 going down Tuscaloosa St, but these seems more like an implied "TO" shields, instead of having to turn 3 times quickly to go down AL14 west.

[clong]

In Greenville, AL on AL245, AL Truck 10 and AL Truck 185 are co-signed for the entire length of AL245. AL Truck 10 has an end sign on the east end at the intersection with AL10. AL Truck 185 has a left turn sign there and a right turn sign at US31. There is an end AL Truck 185 at the intersection of AL185 south of Greenville.

Don't know if these are allowed for inclusion under the TM rules, but wanted to report what I saw in the field.

[cenlaroads]

In Greenville, AL on AL245, AL Truck 10 and AL Truck 185 are co-signed for the entire length of AL245. AL Truck 10 has an end sign on the east end at the intersection with AL10. AL Truck 185 has a left turn sign there and a right turn sign at US31. There is an end AL Truck 185 at the intersection of AL185 south of Greenville.

Don't know if these are allowed for inclusion under the TM rules, but wanted to report what I saw in the field.

AL Truck 10 starts at AL 10's interchange with I-65 and runs concurrent with the interstate to AL 185.  It's signed at the interchange but I don't see any signs on I-65, until you get to exit 130.

[vespertine]

One broken concurrency found: AL41 and AL21BusMon in Monroeville are not concurrent. AL41 has a point for Drewry Road (which looks about a block off); AL21Bus does not.