usaal: Alabama State Routes

[bhemphill]

GMSV shows the Truck bannered signs on both ends, but is from 2013.

[mapmikey]

^ Is it signed as TRUCK AL 22?  If so, I can add it.

Signed on both ends as of 2013 - https://goo.gl/maps/5bE474RbQLu

[froggie]

I've already seen GMSV.  I'd like to see what his more recent observations are.

[Wadsteckel]

As of the last time I was there, a couple months ago, the signs still stand.  Driving a semi, I’m not about to risk not following the signs in the process of clinching a part of a road I don’t have.  😏

Regards,
-Ed S

[Wadsteckel]

Hi Adam,

I was in Maplesville, AL again this week for another load from South Coast Paper.  I came into town via US 82 to AL 22 (thus, entering from the south).  Not only was the Truck AL 22 signs still present, but the sign denoting "Ordinance #82" stating "Thru trucks must follow marked route".  With it raining and me moving, I couldn't get a good picture of the signs.  If you look in Google Maps, they are there where I saw them.

Happy New Year (to everyone)
-Ed S

[formulanone]

I've been looking though many of the Alabama State routes, and can't think of too many missing points, other than minor roads that some folks* might use as county-line "spinbacks". But unless there's a reason for the roads to be included, I don't know if every county line waypoint should be included.

As per a PM with froggie at AARoads, I've checked out about 1/3 of the usaal roads point-by-point. So far, nothing looks out of place. I see a good number of connections at all other SR's and many of the longer CRs or local roads.

Unfortunately, I can rarely promise a check them in the field for accuracy, because work takes me all over the country, but I take a ton of photos and browse the ALGIS features for reference.


* Weasel word or self-incrimination?...you be the judge. 

[formulanone]

I'm about 2/3 done - still haven't caught any errors. So far, so good.

Mainly checking to see if one route cross-references another point, and connections between those on the official state maps (which includes a fair number of county routes, where room seems to to permit in some of the less-populated counties).

[michih]

There are about 10 NMPs. Mostly where usaal intersect US routes.

[rlee]

According to a post on AA Roads and photos in this blog post, AL 21 in Piedmont AL has been rerouted onto AL 200 west of Piedmont. AL 200 is no more, and old AL 21 in downtown Piedmont is now a city street.

https://geekalabama.com/2019/04/11/roadscapes-wednesday-alabama-state-route-200-is-eliminated-in-piedmont/

[froggie]

^ Details?

[michih]

Load al.nmp into HDX. If you don't wanna / can use HDX, let me know...

[froggie]

Sorry...not in a position to use HDX, hence the ask.

[michih]

OK

• US411 wp I-759(4) is off, should be synced with AL759 wp 4
• US280 wp US231/25 is off, should be synced with US231/AL25 wps
• US80 wp AL81_SB and US29/US80 wps AL81_NB should be merged into AL81 wp, there are just two one-way streets. US29 wp AL81_NB is in use, US80 wps AL81_NB and AL81_SB are in use. However, you can use them as alt labels for the only wp.
• AL22/US80BusSel wp US80/14 is off, should be synced with AL14, AL22TrkSel and US80 wp
• US80BusSel wp US80/41 is off, should be synced with US80 and AL41 wp
• US84 / US43 wps should be synced
• AL134 wp US431_N and US431 wp AL134/173 should be synced (btw: why 173 in wp name?)

• Are US231, US411 and AL23 wps in Ashville intended? I think so, let me know and I mark it FP.
• AL176 has two shaping points +x02 and +x03 close together. Is it intended? If so, I can mark it FP.
• Same at AL25 +x25 and +x26, intended?
• AL167 wps AL/FL and CR9 seem to be intended too. Mark FP?

[oscar]

Sorry...not in a position to use HDX, hence the ask.

One other approach is to look at http://travelmapping.net/logs/nmpbyregion/al.nmp, which will show all near-matches in Alabama including many just between non-usaal routes. That's what I use, never having given HDX a try. Disadvantage is that if the mismatch is too big, it won't be a "near miss" and so won't be flagged.

[Markkos1992]

Sorry...not in a position to use HDX, hence the ask.

One other approach is to look at http://travelmapping.net/logs/nmpbyregion/al.nmp, which will show all near-matches in Alabama including many just between non-usaal routes. That's what I use, never having given HDX a try. Disadvantage is that if the mismatch is too big, it won't be a "near miss" and so won't be flagged.

The ones that do not get flagged is part of why I have been doing an overhaul of the routes in PA and DE.  I still have not touched HDX to this point.