usaal: Alabama State Routes

[formulanone]

What is a "long underscore"?

[michih]

What is a "long underscore"?

http://travelmapping.net/devel/manual/wayptlabels.php#over2

Suffix with more than 4 characters or exactly 4 characters but the 4th character is not upper-case:
CR1_Bibb -> CR1_Bib
CR55_Dale -> CR55_Dal

The general label truncation rule doesn't apply to suffixes.

[Markkos1992]

I am referencing the thread on AL 21 and AL 200 below partly because I just saw a new post on AARoads about it confirming that AL 200 was removed.

http://forum.travelmapping.net/index.php?topic=3035.msg13971#msg13971 (moved post to this thread so link does not work, quote is below)

According to a post on AA Roads and photos in this blog post, AL 21 in Piedmont AL has been rerouted onto AL 200 west of Piedmont. AL 200 is no more, and old AL 21 in downtown Piedmont is now a city street.

https://geekalabama.com/2019/04/11/roadscapes-wednesday-alabama-state-route-200-is-eliminated-in-piedmont/

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=5555.msg2467287#msg2467287

[formulanone]

I've been driving a lot more for work, and have completed more mileage within Alabama.

I can confirm that AL 21's north end takes over AL 200 in Piedmont; I didn't see any signs for AL 200 on the old alignment of AL 21, so it can be removed. There's an end sign for AL 21 at US 278. (Map)



AL 21 also took over AL 275's routing in Talladega, as expected by ALDOT. So AL 275 can also be removed, as it is no longer signed. I'll have to look at my photos to see if AL 77 shields were also posted along the former AL 275. (Map)

[clong]

I noticed AL149 is still on it's old alignment in the Highway Browser.

The eastern end has been extended slightly to the Mountain Brook city limit (the intersection with Cahaba Rd).
On the west, AL149 no longer turns north onto Greensprings, but continues on Lakeshore to the Birmingham city limit (roughly the intersection with Wildwood Cir).

[formulanone]

Sorry to leave this unchecked for so long, haven't really had much time.

AL 28
This route points to itself, instead of AL 25 in Thomaston.

AL 36
CR 41 -> DanRd (county road numbers are rarely posted used in Morgan County)
CR 73 -> CotFloRd (same reason)
* Also suggest UniHillRd for Union Hill Road, though very close to Cotaco-Florette Road.
CR 40 -> UppRivRd (see above)

AL 39
Would swap point for Williams Road for CR21/East Spruce Street in Gainesville, likely has more traffic.

AL 41
CR56Wil -> CR56Mon (point and route entirely located in Monroe County)

[yakra]

CR56_Mon

[oscar]

- Boll Weevil Circle around Enterprise is indeed AL 192, but AL 192 is unsigned so for that reason is not included.

I saw some AL 192 signs when I was down there last week, and found some more on GMSV, for a total of seven AL 192 signs on AL 192 or intersecting routes:

AL 134 EB approaching Boll Weevil junction:

https://goo.gl/maps/oWbz62wrUGJKhd187

AL 192 EB east of AL 27 junction:

https://goo.gl/maps/UQ6Nw6KLL1EfVeDU7

AL 192 EB, end sign at AL 88/167 junction:

https://goo.gl/maps/291GJ8WCHp2Tt7a6A

AL 192 WB, west of AL 88/167 junction:

https://goo.gl/maps/VNhgJuaQ2FnwmdMU8

AL 192 WB, east of AL 27 junction:

https://goo.gl/maps/1giYFe4xbsSFQ1hp9

AL 192 WB, at AL 27 junction:

https://goo.gl/maps/ZCcvPfV9mTJjF5Ea6

AL 27 SB, north of AL 192 junction:

https://goo.gl/maps/mzz1cBL5NKKBwGSn8

That said, there are quite a few signs along AL 192 that say "To [some other route]" where you might expect an AL 192 marker.

The mix of AL 192 and "To [something else]" markers on AL 192 and its junctions is not the greatest route signage for AL 192, but it's not nothing.

[compdude787]

Found this thread buried in the Updates to Highway Data sub-forum. https://forum.travelmapping.net/index.php?topic=3035.msg13971#msg13971

Apparently, it's never been updated in the HB, so I'm posting this  here.

[formulanone]

AL 200 and AL 275 are no longer signed (both have been absorbed by AL 21), and I believe are removed from the ALDOT's latest maps.

I almost finished off US 11 in Alabama today, but there's a 7-mile detour around Hammondville and Sulfur Creek onto I-59. (I got all of Georgia's US 11 as a consolation prize on the way to Chattanooga.)

[formulanone]

AL 44:
Add a point for CR 61, though it's close to the point for CR95. (CR 61 is longer and connects to SR 253.

AL 48:
Point with GA 5 (the east end) is a little off at the border.

AL 49:
Recommend point at State Lake Road (StaLakeRd) between McVRd and CR31.

AL 50:
Recommend a point for Old US 280 at Camp Hill.

Chambers County actually uses a leading zero on county road signs, and even two leading zeros on some single-digit county roads. (Talladega County also does this.) However, they are a little inconsistent.

CR38 > CR038
https://www.google.com/maps/@32.8466351,-85.5459957,3a,40.8y,297.26h,87.94t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sYuHCwPiuPmCrH35ijz3yBQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

CR16 > CR016
https://www.google.com/maps/@32.8371036,-85.4991805,3a,19.9y,144.79h,88.84t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLTQtb1aavE0vRGJyShwVgA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

CR83 > CR083
There's some inconsistency on this one... With | Without

AL 51:
CR265 could be removed - short driveway on one end, dirt path on the other.

CR11Dale > CR11_Dale

[froggie]

Note to self:  SPUI mentioned in another thread about NMPs in/near Selma.

[HTM Duke]

From my last trip into Alabama, I noticed a some routing changes in Ozark.

First was a rerouting of AL-27 in Ozark.  TM has it running along Enterprise Rd from US-231 to AL-249, but in the field it is now duplexed with AL-249 to US-231.
at AL-249 | 2013 | 2018
at US-231 | 2013 | 2018

The other was the potential decommissioning of US-231 BUS.  I did not see any signage at its endpoints with US-231, only at the turnoff from Union to Broad, and vice-versa.  This looks similar with old US-84 BUS in Enterprise, where some erroneous signage is still present in downtown, even though TM does not have it as an active route.
at US-231 | 2018 north, south | 2019 north , south
at AL-249 north | Feb 2019 | Sep 2019 (also note the appearance of an AL-27 shield)

south terminus | 2018 | 2019
at AL-123 north | 2018 | 2019

[rlee]

I can confirm that AL 21 has been moved to the Talladega bypass. AL 275 is no more, and all signs are gone. AL 77 has also been moved onto the bypass east to miss the town square.

AL 77's new route from south to north begins at Battle St (former start of 21/77 overlap) and follows the former AL 21 alignment towards Anniston. At the bypass, AL 77 NB begins a wrong way duplex with AL 21 SB heading back to where AL 77 intersected the bypass.

Battle St, which was a part of AL 21 and AL 77, is no longer an ALDOT route.  Court St and East St, which were part of AL 77, are no longer ALDOT routes from the bypass southward to Battle St.

I've been driving a lot more for work, and have completed more mileage within Alabama.

I can confirm that AL 21's north end takes over AL 200 in Piedmont; I didn't see any signs for AL 200 on the old alignment of AL 21, so it can be removed. There's an end sign for AL 21 at US 278. (Map)

AL 21 also took over AL 275's routing in Talladega, as expected by ALDOT. So AL 275 can also be removed, as it is no longer signed. I'll have to look at my photos to see if AL 77 shields were also posted along the former AL 275. (Map)

[formulanone]

Here's the ALDOT 2021 Annual Report (link rot on OP). Route descriptions begin on page 83.

AL 52

UseSt - unnecessary in Dothan (was this for the old alignment?); recommend using nearby ColHwy (Columbia Highway) which was the old alignment of AL 52.
Or should that be ColHwy_W because it joins that route again as AL 52?

*RngSt > RanSt (what was the asterisk for? old/new alignment?)

If signage is to be believed, AL 95 ends at CR 95 (which was SR 95 until a few years ago), but seems to have a useless multiplex end with AL 52.

AL 53Dot (Dothan)

CR55 > StaLineRd - as per GMSV no "CR 55" or signage that says "County Road" on it. Stop light at its other end on US 231 says "State Line Road".

BUS231 > US231BusDot <- Edit 9/27/2022

AL 53

TN7Truck > TN7TrkArd <- Edit 9/27/2022

I-65 > I-65/31 (include US 31, even though it's unsigned at this point?)

AL 54 - all good

AL 55

CR107_N  > LloMill (?) or CR107_A - Lloyd Mill Road used on subsequent intersections, no CR 107 signage on shields nor street blades. But wait...

CR107_S > CR107_B - road of same name (on blades) and CR 107 (on shields). And then...

CR107Red_N > CR107_C - is this when we just use _A, _B, _C... because it's obvious that CR 107 is the former alignment of AL 55? I'm not sure.

CR107Red_S > CR107_D - see above