Rest of America Master Thread

[michih]

List of potential systems (Grey=no potential system, Black=to be checked or not yet drafted (not in HB), Red=devel, Orange=preview, Chocolate=review requested, Green=active).

Sub-continental system
naca - Rutas Centroamericanas (neroute2) reviewer: t.b.d.

National systems
abwrt - Aruba Routes
aia? - Anguilla ?
argrn - Argentina Rutas Nacionales (neroute2) reviewer: t.b.d.
atg? - Antigua and Barbuda ?
bes? - Bonaire, Sint Eustatius and Saba ?
bhs? - Bahamas ?
blm - Saint Barthelemy is part of Guadeloupe's numbering system
blzar - Belize National Routes
blzd - Belize District Routes
bmu? - Bermuda ?
bolf - Bolivia Red Vial Fundamental (neroute2) reviewer: t.b.d.
brabr - Brasil Sistema Rodoviário Federal (neroute2) reviewer: t.b.d. (also state systems)
brbh - Barbados Highways
chlrn - Chile Rutas Nacionales (neroute2) reviewer: t.b.d.
chlsf - Chile Select Freeways (neroute2) reviewer: t.b.d.
colrn - Colombia Colombia Red Vial Nacional (neroute2) reviewer: t.b.d.
crirp - Costa Rica Rutas Primarias (Duke87) reviewer: t.b.d.
crirs - Costa Rica Rutas Secundarias (Duke87) reviewer: t.b.d.
crirt - Costa Rica Rutas Terciarias (Duke87) reviewer: t.b.d.
cuba - Cuba Autopista
cubn - Cuba Main Roads
cuw? - Curacao ?
cyma - Cayman Island A Roads (unsigned)
dma? - Dominica ?
dom? - Dominican Republic Main Roads
ecue - Ecuador Red Vial Estatal (neroute2) reviewer: t.b.d.
flka - Falkland Islands A Roads (numbered?)
flkb - Falkland Islands B Roads (numbered?)
glpn - Guadeloupe Routes Nationales
glpd - Guadeloupe Routes Départementales
grd? - Grenada ?
grl? - Greenland ?
gtmrn - Guatemala National Roads
gufn - French Guiana Routes Nationales
gufd - French Guiana Routes Départementales (si404) reviewer: michih
guy? - Guyana ?
hdn? - Honduras Rutas Nacionales
htirn - Haiti Routes Nationales
jamt - Jamaica Motorways
jama - Jamaica A Roads
jamb - Jamaica B Roads (si404)
kna? - St Kitts and Nevis ?
lca? - St Lucia ?
maf - Saint Martin is part of Guadeloupe's numbering system
mexd - Mexico Federal Expressways
mexed - Mexico State Expressways (split into multiple systems?)
mexsf - Mexico Select Freeways (neroute2) reviewer: t.b.d.
mexf - Mexico Federal Highways (neroute2) reviewer: t.b.d.
mexemex - Estado de México Carreteras Estatales (neroute2) reviewer: t.b.d.
mexqro - Querétaro Carreteras Estatales (neroute2) reviewer: t.b.d.
mexdfeje - Mexico City Ejes (neroute2) reviewer: t.b.d.
msr? - Montserrat ?
mtqa - Martinique Autoroutes
mtqn - Martinique Routes Nationales
mtqd - Martinique Routes Départementales
nicnic - Nicaragua National Roads
pan? - Panama National Highways
perpe - Peru Red Vial Nacional (neroute2) reviewer: t.b.d.
prypy - Red Vial Paraguaya (neroute2) reviewer: t.b.d.
slvrn - El Salvador Rutas Nacionales
spmn - Saint Pierre and Miquelon Routes Territoriales
sur? - Suriname ?
sxm? - Sint Maarten ?
tcaa - Turks and Caicos Islands A Roads
tcab - Turks and Caicos Islands B Roads
ttoh - Trinidad and Tobago Highways (si404) reviewer: t.b.d.
ttomr - Trinidad and Tobago Main Roads (si404) reviewer: t.b.d.
uryrn - Uruguay Rutas Nacionales
vct? - St Vincent and the Grenadines ?
vena - Venezuela Autopistas (neroute2) reviewer: t.b.d.
vent - Venezuela Vías Troncales (neroute2) reviewer: t.b.d.
vgb - British Virgin Islands (no system)

[Duke87]

Chile Rutas Nacionales do not appear to be signed particularly thoroughly, but signs do exist. Also sometimes text instead of shield.

[michih]

but signs do exist. Also sometimes text instead of shield.

I think that's common all over SA. For instance, ARG and URY routes are signed "well" but not "thoroughly" as we are used from other countries.

[vdeane]

Any plans to include the Autopista systems for Chile and Argentina?  They're wholly concurrent with the other numbered routes, but there is precedent for that (New Zealand).

[the_spui_ninja]

Peru (at least near Cusco and Puno) has not very good signage...

[michih]

Any plans to include the Autopista systems for Chile and Argentina?  They're wholly concurrent with the other numbered routes, but there is precedent for that (New Zealand).

I don't like this policy and it's different to Nea Zealand now:

If all routes are concurrent to SH roads, then what's the point of having this system at all? If that's the case, I'd say scrap it.

Because it was drafted a good year beforehand? Also, nzlsh is a long way off preview status and I can always merge it in when nzlsh is activated if we don't want to highlight that these roads are motorways (or throw into a ocesm grab-bag system with Australian named motorways).

I'm pretty sure that we have other systems entirely concurrent with other systems - cantch is AFAICS (OK, cansk doesn't yet exist).

I'll continued drafting argrn system but there are many unsigned exits in Argentina. I need to check GSV but it has issues in some Argentinan regions. That's why I stopped drafting argrn last year. Once I'll have completed the system, I'll check for unsigned routes and add a system like cannf, eursf or usasf.

On the one hand, I like the idea of having the system so that the major freeways are colored blue (it does look odd if a place with a freeway system doesn't have any blue routes).  On the other, it is wholly concurrent, and the distinction of what is and isn't a motorway seems arbitrary to me; I get the sense that it's used more as a legal function and not really meant to be a coherent "system" of routes.

I also like having major freeways colored blue but that's a different point.

[vdeane]

It also allows people who want to track their progress on the freeway system specifically to have a separate map/stats for it.

Regarding Google Maps, it is certainly true that street view in parts of Argentina is rather unpleasant.

[michih]

Ah, thread was renamed to "Rest of America" and many potential systems added. Thanks.

[Duke87]

The British Virgin Islands do not have any signed numbered routes, so no system there.

[neroute2]

Cuba has signed routes; here's a sign for the A1: https://www.mapillary.com/app/?focus=photo&pKey=Hk5G3vmL5VdRV9lgb3hAGA

[michih]

Cuba has signed routes; here's a sign for the A1: https://www.mapillary.com/app/?focus=photo&pKey=Hk5G3vmL5VdRV9lgb3hAGA

Sure, that why we have

cuba - Cuba Autopista

on the list.

[michih]

brabr - Brazil Rodovias Federais
ecue Ecuador Primerias Red Vial Estatal

I planned to draft these one day but gave up. Anyone can have a try.
I started drafting brabr but the signage was quite bad where I've started. There are a few fragments on Github:

https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/tree/master/hwy_data/BRA/brabr
https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/tree/master/hwy_data/ECU/ecue

[neroute2]

Links to signs:

Central America
Belize?
Costa Rica
Guatemala
Honduras
Nicaragua
Panama
El Salvador

South America
Argentina
Bolivia
Brazil
Chile (Via Panam)
Colombia
Ecuador (also standalone reassurance)
French Guiana
Guyana?
Paraguay?
Peru (Via Panam)
Suriname?
Uruguay
Venezuela

[the_spui_ninja]

Figured I'd add the signage I was able to take pictures of in Peru 3 years ago (what little I saw): here

[neroute2]

Any plans to include the Autopista systems for Chile and Argentina?  They're wholly concurrent with the other numbered routes, but there is precedent for that (New Zealand).

In neither country does the autopista system seem to be a defined system. So probably not.