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Re: cannf: Canada Select Named Freeways
« Reply #75 on: March 26, 2019, 01:22:50 am »
Note, however, that the guide plans are from 2015. More recent drone footage (around 7:05) indicates that a guide sign already erected seems to show the bypassed part of old TCH 1 as part of a numbered provincial route, probably SK 11. So the plans might've changed since then. We'll know more later this year when the Bypass is completed, or when the project team sends out another drone (hope this time they send it counter-clockwise around Regina, to catch as-built signage on the western bypass leg approaching the TCH 1 junction), or maybe sooner if julmac can do some field-checking next time he's in Regina.

The sign at 7:05 is on the west leg. Rotary Ave is the Transportation Hub access south of Dewdney Ave (SK730).

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Re: cannf: Canada Select Named Freeways
« Reply #76 on: September 19, 2019, 03:10:19 am »
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Re: cannf: Canada Select Named Freeways
« Reply #77 on: September 23, 2019, 05:25:50 am »
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Fixed. https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/3178

Also seems the Don Valley Parkway has gained exit numbers too.  Noticed them on OSM, and confirmed them 1-by-1 in StreetView.  However, one exit (that has an off-ramp) didn't gain a number, which was the ON-401/404 interchange (404 counterpart does have a #, but only from the HOV lanes).  So, 'both' copies of the DVP will get an update.

I've also finally pushed a cleaned up Allen Road file for the site based on previous discussion.

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The easternmost segment, beyond DonValPkwy, looks a bit off to me. Are we sure the route ends here, and that this shouldn't be considered a ramp?

As far as I understand, it's still considered as part of the Gardiner, especially since the route used to go all the way Leslie Street prior to 2001.

However, with the recent addition of exit numbers along the route (continuing the QEW numbering), this 'ramp' got #157, not the DVP side.  However, I haven't seen pictures yet to confirm that's exactly what happened with the numbering right there.

Getting back to this thing about the Gardiner, there is this "End Expressway" sign beyond they Don Valley Parkway, which kinda backs me up on keeping it, but the signage at the gore point does indicate it's Exit #157 (fun that it mentions ON-2, which doesn't exist there anymore).

So, I honestly could go either way at this point.

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Re: cannf: Canada Select Named Freeways
« Reply #78 on: July 30, 2020, 08:01:03 am »
One other approach we can take is to solicit comments on whether the two "select" systems in devel status should be promoted to preview, and what changes should be made before promotion. That would focus discussion on actual systems, rather than in the abstract.

cannf, which has been in devel status for ages, would be a good candidate for such discussion. It's something I've long thought should be promoted to preview, after discussion of what should and should not go in the system. I manage two jurisdictions with cannf routes (BC and SK -- I don't see anything in QC, or the Arctic jurisdictions, that should be added to cannf). yakra manages many of the other Canadian jurisdictions, including two (AB and NS) with routes in the system and other routes he's pooh-poohed as possible cannf additions. rickmastfan67 manages ON, with several routes.

One of the users who's expressed interest in promoting cannf to at least preview is julmac, who lives in AB and has family in SK, and has provided valuable help in peer-reviewing new systems in both provinces. Discussion of what to do with cannf, at least, should not be on a "collaborators only" board.

I'm also in favor of promoting cannf to preview. Since it is a Select system, it can be incomplete per se.

The manual says: https://travelmapping.net/devel/manual/sysdef.php#selectsys

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What are Select highway systems?
There are routes with high importance to travelers which do not belong to any highway system. These are routes which are maintained by local authorities, are privately owned, or belong to systems which are extensive and not yet included to the project. Travelmapping categorizes these routes to an own Travelmapping highway system if possible. These systems are called Select because they cannot be considered being complete. We only include routes which the highway data manager of the region considers being relevant.

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Re: cannf: Canada Select Named Freeways
« Reply #79 on: August 03, 2020, 12:47:48 pm »
https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/4079 and https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/4082 will promote cannf to preview status. This is for discussion about the general criteria to choose routes for "select" systems in the "Select Freeway System definition" thread on the collaborators-only part of the site, as well as specifically any changes that should be made to cannf (in this thread, open to all users).
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Re: cannf: Canada Select Named Freeways
« Reply #80 on: August 03, 2020, 03:33:06 pm »
rickmastfan67: thoughts on promoting to preview?

oscar: looks link there's no longer a circle drive file. Was the idea to just have TCH 1 & SK 11 take care of this?
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Re: cannf: Canada Select Named Freeways
« Reply #81 on: August 03, 2020, 04:32:39 pm »
oscar: looks link there's no longer a circle drive file. Was the idea to just have TCH 1 & SK 11 take care of this?

Circle Drive, in Saskatoon SK, is now completely covered by TCH 16, SK 11, and SK11Cir. I deleted Circle Drive from cannf when we finally worked out how to deal with the Saskatoon route clusterfork.

Ring Road, in Regina SK, once included part of TCH 1 before the TCH was rerouted onto the new Regina Bypass. Now that so much of Ring Rd. is no longer included in a numbered route system (part of it is concurrent with SK 6), I added it to cannf along with all the other changes from the Regina Bypass project.

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Re: cannf: Canada Select Named Freeways
« Reply #82 on: August 03, 2020, 10:28:33 pm »
rickmastfan67: thoughts on promoting to preview?

No problems here.

When we're ready to send it to active, we'll have to deal with the '2' Gardiner Expressway & DVP files.