Author Topic: norfv + norntv: Norway Primære Fylkesveier + Nasjonale Turistveger  (Read 2254 times)

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Offline michih

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I've drafted norfv system "Norway Primære Fylkesveier" back in 2017 but it's getting a little bit more complicated due to a regional reform.

Norway plans a renumbering of many Fylkesveier (Fv routes) but also some Riksveier (Rv routes) will be renumbered.
Rv routes (green) and primary Fv routes (white) are signed and in HB. Primary Fv routes are former Rv routes now maintained by districts. They have usually just replaced the Rv prefix by Fv prefix.
Secondary Fv routes are also maintained by districts and not signed. Their numbering is not unique, e.g. there's might be a Fv1 in each district. In addition, primary Fv routes have the same numbering starting with Fv7!
Due to a regional reform planned for 2020, road numbering should be harmonized so that a road number is unique and doesn't change its number at district borders.
It seems to be planned that secondary Fv routes will get 4-digit numbers. They are not in HB but used for wp labels of routes in HB.

First renumberings appear in field and even Rv routes have been renamed.
It seems that each county council must approve the changes. Some info.

I need to revise the whole region including active systems before norfv will be ready for a review.
However, it's seems to be too early to start because it's not yet clear what's the overall plan.

I wanna gather relevant info on this thread.

Update 2019-05-14.
Some major renumberings.

Update 2020-03-22: map indicating old and new numberings.
« Last Edit: April 26, 2020, 07:27:17 am by michih »

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Re: Norway Primære Fylkesveier (norfv)
« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2019, 01:11:40 am »
Fv669Edo: Fv669Edo -> Fv669

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Re: norfv: Norway Primære Fylkesveier
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2020, 09:40:19 am »
I'll try to work on the revision of norfv next. I won't care about waypoints in use by current TM users because it might be difficult depending on how numbering has changed. Expect broken user list file entries.

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Re: norfv: Norway Primære Fylkesveier
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2020, 04:38:39 pm »
I'll try to work on the revision of norfv next. I won't care about waypoints in use by current TM users because it might be difficult depending on how numbering has changed. Expect broken user list file entries.

No problem for me, I will change my list afterwards accordingly.

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Re: norfv: Norway Primære Fylkesveier
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2020, 02:49:23 pm »
I started in the north and Fv6xx - Fv8xx are already done. There are some new routes and other routes have been downgraded. Also some primary routes (Rv) have been changed to Fv or even to E numbering. The latter are the short branches to airports in the very north of Norway.

I think that about 50% of the norfv routes are done now. The south will be more difficult due to more concurrent routes, e.g. the freeways from eursf system.
I usually tried to add alt labels for the Fv routes so far but I cannot promise for the south.
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Re: norfv: Norway Primære Fylkesveier
« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2020, 03:38:09 pm »
A lot of changes to the Fv5xx routes. New routes, renamed routes and downgraded routes.

I think that no number is dedicated more than once anymore in Norway. E.g. no Rv555 and Fv555 or primary Fv79 and secondary Fv79. Every route should have a unique number now.
« Last Edit: April 13, 2020, 03:36:14 pm by michih »

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Re: norfv: Norway Primære Fylkesveier
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2020, 03:39:33 pm »
Dealing with the other routes takes much more time than expected. I'm almost done with eure (except southern E6 routes) and norrv routes (excepted Rv1xx in Oslo area) now. Some concurrencies to eursf routes are temporarily broken. Once the norfv revision is completed, I'll deal with eurtr routes.

And there is one exception with identical route numbering: Rv22 and Fv22.
Edit: Rv354 + Fv354.
« Last Edit: April 14, 2020, 12:05:43 pm by michih »

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Re: norfv: Norway Primære Fylkesveier
« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2020, 02:47:52 pm »
The last E6 route is done. It took three days  :o The whole norfv system took not much longer...

All active routes are revised, only data check, concurrency check and NMP check left. I'll start eurtr soon.

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Re: norfv + norntv: Norway Primære Fylkesveier + Nasjonale Turistveger
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2020, 01:47:42 pm »
Systems are ready for peer-review :)

http://travelmapping.net/hb/index.php?sys=norfv
656 routes with a total lengths of 10,500 miles.

http://travelmapping.net/hb/index.php?sys=norntv
18 routes (including branches 38 TM routes) with a total lengths of 1,240 miles, mostly concurrent to norfv routes.
« Last Edit: May 03, 2020, 02:13:55 am by michih »

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Re: norfv: Norway Primære Fylkesveier
« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2020, 03:19:48 pm »
I'll get onto this after doing fraidfXXd (2 down, 4 to go, but that's about halfway if not a bit further).

Shall I review the Nasjonale Turistveger as well? They form a coherent system we can remove from eurtr and put in its own thing. They were only really put in to one larger grab bag so as to reduce the number of systems.

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Re: norfv: Norway Primære Fylkesveier
« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2020, 03:44:13 pm »
Shall I review the Nasjonale Turistveger as well?

Only if we decide that it should be an own Norwegian system.

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Re: norfv: Norway Primære Fylkesveier
« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2020, 05:55:58 am »
NOR Fv60
Are you sure it starts at GerVeg and not at the ferry crossing?

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Re: norfv: Norway Primære Fylkesveier
« Reply #12 on: April 25, 2020, 09:51:09 am »
no, it's wrong. I'll change it.

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Re: norfv + norntv: Norway Primære Fylkesveier + Nasjonale Turistveger
« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2020, 07:28:19 am »
Shall I review the Nasjonale Turistveger as well? They form a coherent system we can remove from eurtr and put in its own thing. They were only really put in to one larger grab bag so as to reduce the number of systems.

Yep, this thread is also for comments to the new Norway Nasjonale Turistveger system (norntv).

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NOR: Duplicate 'NOR Fv22' AltRouteName
« Reply #14 on: May 01, 2020, 02:42:55 am »
Duplicate alt route name in nor.fv220: 'NOR Fv22' already points to nor.fv022