usafl: Florida State Highways

[CharlotteAllisonCDTG]

I just got on the forum, so -- if this has already been mentioned before -- I apologize for asking again.  When will the Florida State Road system be added to the site officially?  I get tired of seeing the "Ignoring line matching highway in system in development" error lines at the top of my log file.  LOL.

[oscar]

I don't know the answer. I do know (having driven most or all of them) that there a lot of routes in south Florida > FL802 not yet in the HB. I have more than 60 of those high-numbered routes in my draft list entries file (which I keep offline, separate from my online list file).

[CharlotteAllisonCDTG]

I attended college in Pensacola and was stationed (Navy)  in Pensacola and Jacksonville, so I have lots of highways under my belt.  I have all of them at the top of my log as errors.

[mapcat]

I think someone has posted that if you include a # at the beginning of the line in your .list, it will be ignored and not show up in your log. For now I just do what Oscar does, and keep my usafl (and usaca, canqc, etc) entries separate from my working list, ready to paste in when the time comes. rickmastfan67 is still revising the system and there probably will be many changes to the existing routes before the set goes to preview, so even if what you have now looks correct, you'll probably still see some log entries once he's finished.

[si404]

I think someone has posted that if you include a # at the beginning of the line in your .list, it will be ignored and not show up in your log.

Or there's the other way and just skim over the 'Ignoring line matching highway in system in development' and 'Unknown region/highway combo in line' errors, putting up with them (on the rare occasions you look at your log file).

[mapcat]

Or there's the other way and just skim over the 'Ignoring line matching highway in system in development' and 'Unknown region/highway combo in line' errors, putting up with them (on the rare occasions you look at your log file).

Right, although I check fairly regularly for errors since changes sometimes break my .list (or people forget to provide alt labels when they edit). It's easier to spot these when I don't have to wade through dozens of other errors.

[mapmikey]

I've been buried at work but here and there have been looking through the higher number routes.  Unfortunately I lost half of my notes, but I still have these:

Routes to delete:
FL 249 (overlap of US 129 & US 90)
FL 261 (overlap of US 319)
FL 290 (now a county route)
FL 329 (SR segment unsigned & overlapped by FL 20 in Gainesville, only CR segment is signed)
FL 369 (overlap of US 319)
FL 375 (overlap of US 319)
FL 377 (overlap of US 319)
FL 500 (overlaps of US 192, US 441, US 27, US 27 Alt)
FL 517 (US 92)
FL 530 (US 192)
FL 533 (former US 98/301 truck in Dade City, now mainline 98/301 and unsigned)
FL 546 (TO US 92, US 92, not signed)
FL 555 (US 17)
FL 592 (I-375)
FL 594 (I-175)
FL 595 (US 19 Alt)
FL 599 (US 41)

Need to add:
FL 399 (this only consists of 1/3 mi of the route between US 98 and just short of the bridge to the barrier island, the rest being CR 399, but it is signed)
FL 451

Modifications:
FL 200:  Should be split into two segments:  between US 41 and US 27/301/441; then from US 1/23/301 in Callahan to its end in Fernandina Beach
FL 400:  Eliminate waypoints 1 - 79, relabel waypoint 80 like I-4/95.
FL 569:  Eliminate waypoint 1 (FL 618), the route no longer goes south of FL 60

Just wanted to dump these here before I lost them too.

There is a FL200 sign with 301 at the CR325 intersection at Island Grove. But I agree that it should be split since it's the only instance 200 is co-signed with 301. It looks like an error. Similarly, I think FL212 should be deleted.
FL594 is signed between FL687_S and FL687_N
FL595 is signed in downtown St. Petersburg Along with US19Alt. Although, it's inconsistent. Sometimes there's only a 595 sign, only a US19Alt sign, or both. 595 signs simply disappear west of I-275 if I remember correctly.

Additionally:
FL559 got extended south from US92 in Auburndale to FL655.
FL651 is unsigned.
FL655 south of the 'RecHwy' point is signed as FL620.
FL683 is unsigned.
FL684 is not signed east of the 'US41/41Bus' point.
FL685 is only signed between US92 and FL60 on Henderson Blvd.

Also, I will say for the record that FL109 is fine as it is.

Just got back from a week in St Petersburg FL...

FL 595 is signed prominently from both directions of US 19 (and US 19 ALT is mentioned from US 19 to only go northbound, though there is reassurance US 19 ALT signage leaving the intersection and over to the one-way pair at I-275); it is prominently posted from US 92 and FL 687; I drove it westbound and saw no 595 shields (but plenty of 19 ALT) but GMSV shows one EB on 4th just past I-275 and a set after MLK Ave.

FL 546 is signed prominently from both directions of US 92 and also a reassurance marker leaving US 92; not signed from I-4 or as best I can tell from GMSV after leaving I-4.

I can confirm that FL 687 is co-signed with US 92 at every opportunity along its duplex in addition to its solo segments north and south of US 92.

i can also confirm that FL 524 ends at FL 501 and that no signed state route connects with nearby FL 528 - https://goo.gl/maps/K71NAXibuYB2

FL 501 is not signed at FL 520 and is not signed anywhere south of Michigan Ave as far as I can tell.

[mefailenglish]

Need to add:
FL 399 (this only consists of 1/3 mi of the route between US 98 and just short of the bridge to the barrier island, the rest being CR 399, but it is signed)

That one is debatable.  Normally, for us to consider the route as 'signed', there needs to be at least a shield on the mainline (couldn't find one).  So this one might not make the cut.

That's funny.  I actually had that same thought (debatable) in my original post, but must've removed it while I was editing it.

A few more thoughts from 600-802:

FL600/FL600tam: delete, all hidden
FL615: remove BellAve, route starts at CR611
FL620: add (the first two waypoints of FL655 are actually FL620)
FL651: delete, unsigned (already mentioned)
FL655: see FL620
FL683: delete, unsigned portion of US301 (already mentioned)
FL685: trim to first two waypoints only.  Beyond there is not signed. (already mentioned)
FL700:  Keep standalone piece in Palm Beach Co, Old Connors Rd/Main St.  Technically beyond Canal Point to Okeechobee it's also signed occasionally (as is FL 15) along with their US highway companions but since FL015 doesn't go past Canal Point in the usafl system I'd say do the same with FL700.  Delete all the rest of FL700 as it's hidden under US98.
FL700Bro:  Keep

FL707.  This one is weird.  On the delete side:  It's not in the FLDOT shapefiles.  And it's signed as CR707 in downtown Stuart.  However, in the streetview, there are multiple FL 707 shields north of the drawbridge up to "TO US 1"/NW Wright Blvd. 

FL739:  Extend south to Alico Rd/US 41 interchange.  Delete north of FL80, becomes hidden under US41Bus.
FL750:  The route was extended west from FL291 to US29, and that's what's in the shapefiles.  However, there is currently no FL750 signage that I could find west of FL291, including with the interchange with I-110. 

Just my 2¢.  --Joe

[rickmastfan67]

Just cleaned up FL-187 to FL-212.

[CharlotteAllisonCDTG]

Has FL212 been deleted?

[rickmastfan67]

Has FL212 been deleted?

Yes.

[CharlotteAllisonCDTG]

Thank you for letting me know.  I saw that it was an error on my log file.  I went to the entry, and it had lots of red wording, but no actual content.  So, I didn't know what had happened.

[Eth]

Was finally getting around to adding some stuff to my list file from a FL trip last year and came upon an issue that it doesn't look like anyone else has yet raised: FL 404 should be extended west to I-95 at waypoint 188.

[rickmastfan67]

Was finally getting around to adding some stuff to my list file from a FL trip last year and came upon an issue that it doesn't look like anyone else has yet raised: FL 404 should be extended west to I-95 at waypoint 188.

Will be dealt with when I get to that route in the overhaul process.

[rickmastfan67]

Just cleaned up FL-228 to FL-277.