usafl: Florida State Highways

[rickmastfan67]

On another note,  with FL-109, I currently have the section along Cesery Blvd (northern end) as part of the route. (StreetView)  The GIS backs this up.  However, signage in the field designates this as FL-109A, which it was part of at one time. (StreetView: [1] [2])

So, should I keep that part as FL-109, or add a new file for FL-109A along that segment.  Note, FL-109A used to exist, but now it's CR-109A (unposted) north of FL-115.

[yakra]

Lagging sign replacement? I'd kinda lean toward including as part of FL109.

[rickmastfan67]

Lagging sign replacement? I'd kinda lean toward including as part of FL109.

Well, that's how I have it currently.  Though, I'm still open to turning that segment into '109A' if needed.

[theFXexpert]

I noticed by going up I-75 today that all of the FL48 shields for exit 314 were replaced with county pentagons with the I-75 widening project. There is a CR48 pentagon reassurance shield going eastbound from I-75. The state road 48 shields are still up at the US301 intersection though.

The exit 321 northbound signs replaced the CR470 pentagons with State Road 470 shields. The southbound signs still have the pentagons.

EDIT: Streetview images:
FL470 -> https://www.google.com/maps/@28.6831238,-82.1344862,3a,27y,47.9h,84.82t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s1kFgA3uxEJDrS4-U6W_jHg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

-> https://www.google.com/maps/@28.7205564,-82.1164671,3a,16.6y,42.05h,88.25t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sIZ7xjaZW146HZ3hxD3rLtQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

CR48 -> https://www.google.com/maps/@28.6744604,-82.1393889,3a,27.1y,208.89h,89.89t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1si-Xrq0MIcz94wdWWV5Ew0w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

[rickmastfan67]

Interesting.  I'll have to see what the GIS data says about this as well.

[mefailenglish]

If there's anything I can do to help expand this beyond FL802 to FL9336, please let me know.  I live in South Florida, where most of these routes are, so I'm motivated, and can get ground truth.

Thanks,  --Joe

[michih]

If there's anything I can do to help expand this beyond FL802 to FL9336, please let me know.  I live in South Florida, where most of these routes are, so I'm motivated, and can get ground truth.

Thanks. Please refer to the site start page:

Some experienced users volunteer to help the project. If this interests you, start by reporting problems with existing highway data. Those who have learned the project's structure and highway data rules and guidelines can help greatly by providing review of new highway systems in development. Highly experienced users can learn how to plot new highway systems under the guidance of experienced contributors. Again, see the project forum for more information.

The rules are described on the old CHM site: http://cmap.m-plex.com/tools/manual.php.
Project data is hosted on GitHub: https://github.com/TravelMapping/.

[Jim]

Drove a chunk of FL429 today.  It currently joins FL414 north of their junction and ends near US 441.

[rickmastfan67]

Just cleaned up the routes between 112 & 173. (#1088)

[rickmastfan67]

I noticed by going up I-75 today that all of the FL48 shields for exit 314 were replaced with county pentagons with the I-75 widening project. There is a CR48 pentagon reassurance shield going eastbound from I-75. The state road 48 shields are still up at the US301 intersection though.

CR48 -> https://www.google.com/maps/@28.6744604,-82.1393889,3a,27.1y,208.89h,89.89t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1si-Xrq0MIcz94wdWWV5Ew0w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

GIS data dated 01/21/17 still shows this as a State Route 48.  So, I'm inclined to leave it as-is for now.

As for 470, GIS data doesn't acknowledge it yet, and still shows it as a county route.

[mefailenglish]

I've been buried at work but here and there have been looking through the higher number routes.  Unfortunately I lost half of my notes, but I still have these:

Routes to delete:
FL 249 (overlap of US 129 & US 90)
FL 261 (overlap of US 319)
FL 290 (now a county route)
FL 329 (SR segment unsigned & overlapped by FL 20 in Gainesville, only CR segment is signed)
FL 369 (overlap of US 319)
FL 375 (overlap of US 319)
FL 377 (overlap of US 319)
FL 500 (overlaps of US 192, US 441, US 27, US 27 Alt)
FL 517 (US 92)
FL 530 (US 192)
FL 533 (former US 98/301 truck in Dade City, now mainline 98/301 and unsigned)
FL 546 (TO US 92, US 92, not signed)
FL 555 (US 17)
FL 592 (I-375)
FL 594 (I-175)
FL 595 (US 19 Alt)
FL 599 (US 41)

Need to add:
FL 399 (this only consists of 1/3 mi of the route between US 98 and just short of the bridge to the barrier island, the rest being CR 399, but it is signed)
FL 451

Modifications:
FL 200:  Should be split into two segments:  between US 41 and US 27/301/441; then from US 1/23/301 in Callahan to its end in Fernandina Beach
FL 400:  Eliminate waypoints 1 - 79, relabel waypoint 80 like I-4/95.
FL 569:  Eliminate waypoint 1 (FL 618), the route no longer goes south of FL 60

Just wanted to dump these here before I lost them too.

[theFXexpert]

I've been buried at work but here and there have been looking through the higher number routes.  Unfortunately I lost half of my notes, but I still have these:

Routes to delete:
FL 249 (overlap of US 129 & US 90)
FL 261 (overlap of US 319)
FL 290 (now a county route)
FL 329 (SR segment unsigned & overlapped by FL 20 in Gainesville, only CR segment is signed)
FL 369 (overlap of US 319)
FL 375 (overlap of US 319)
FL 377 (overlap of US 319)
FL 500 (overlaps of US 192, US 441, US 27, US 27 Alt)
FL 517 (US 92)
FL 530 (US 192)
FL 533 (former US 98/301 truck in Dade City, now mainline 98/301 and unsigned)
FL 546 (TO US 92, US 92, not signed)
FL 555 (US 17)
FL 592 (I-375)
FL 594 (I-175)
FL 595 (US 19 Alt)
FL 599 (US 41)

Need to add:
FL 399 (this only consists of 1/3 mi of the route between US 98 and just short of the bridge to the barrier island, the rest being CR 399, but it is signed)
FL 451

Modifications:
FL 200:  Should be split into two segments:  between US 41 and US 27/301/441; then from US 1/23/301 in Callahan to its end in Fernandina Beach
FL 400:  Eliminate waypoints 1 - 79, relabel waypoint 80 like I-4/95.
FL 569:  Eliminate waypoint 1 (FL 618), the route no longer goes south of FL 60

Just wanted to dump these here before I lost them too.

There is a FL200 sign with 301 at the CR325 intersection at Island Grove. But I agree that it should be split since it's the only instance 200 is co-signed with 301. It looks like an error. Similarly, I think FL212 should be deleted.
FL594 is signed between FL687_S and FL687_N
FL595 is signed in downtown St. Petersburg Along with US19Alt. Although, it's inconsistent. Sometimes there's only a 595 sign, only a US19Alt sign, or both. 595 signs simply disappear west of I-275 if I remember correctly.

Additionally:
FL559 got extended south from US92 in Auburndale to FL655.
FL651 is unsigned.
FL655 south of the 'RecHwy' point is signed as FL620.
FL683 is unsigned.
FL684 is not signed east of the 'US41/41Bus' point.
FL685 is only signed between US92 and FL60 on Henderson Blvd.

Also, I will say for the record that FL109 is fine as it is.

[rickmastfan67]

Need to add:
FL 399 (this only consists of 1/3 mi of the route between US 98 and just short of the bridge to the barrier island, the rest being CR 399, but it is signed)

That one is debatable.  Normally, for us to consider the route as 'signed', there needs to be at least a shield on the mainline (couldn't find one).  So this one might not make the cut.

[ntallyn]

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I think FL212 should be deleted.
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FWIW, FL212 has a single sign in both directions along Beach Blvd. I think they are both just east of I-295, but I can verify that (if necessary) when I head out that way this weekend. However, considering those are the only signs, and the entirety of the route overlaps US 90, I don't think it's a necessary route.

[theFXexpert]

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I think FL212 should be deleted.
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FWIW, FL212 has a single sign in both directions along Beach Blvd. I think they are both just east of I-295, but I can verify that (if necessary) when I head out that way this weekend. However, considering those are the only signs, and the entirety of the route overlaps US 90, I don't think it's a necessary route.

Yes, The only FL212 signs are with US90 reassurance markers just east and west of 295. I actually go through there relatively often.