usafl: Florida State Highways

[rickmastfan67]

Need to add:
FL 399 (this only consists of 1/3 mi of the route between US 98 and just short of the bridge to the barrier island, the rest being CR 399, but it is signed)

That one is debatable.  Normally, for us to consider the route as 'signed', there needs to be at least a shield on the mainline (couldn't find one).  So this one might not make the cut.

After doing some more research on FL-399, the route (even though it's signed on the BGS's on US-98) doesn't even leave the interchange with US-98, and thus, will not make the cut.  GIS data shows it ending right @ the gore point, and there this Begin/End Maintenance sign in the same location.

[rickmastfan67]

Was finally getting around to adding some stuff to my list file from a FL trip last year and came upon an issue that it doesn't look like anyone else has yet raised: FL 404 should be extended west to I-95 at waypoint 188.

Will be dealt with when I get to that route in the overhaul process.

Alright, had some time to research this one, and no, FL-404 will not be extended to I-95.  There are several reasons why.
1. GIS data doesn't show it going past CR-509.
2. While the BGS's on I-95 mention it, it seems FDOT goof and forgot to add the 'TO' text with it.  Proof of this is EB trailblazer on the 'supposed' route, here.  All signage going WB that I could find is just "TO I-95" shields.

[rickmastfan67]

FL-281 to FL-414 have just been updated.

[rickmastfan67]

And now FL-415 to FL-536 have just been updated.

[rickmastfan67]

I've been buried at work but here and there have been looking through the higher number routes.  Unfortunately I lost half of my notes, but I still have these:

Routes to delete:
FL 546 (TO US 92, US 92, not signed)

Just hit this route in my cleanup progress, and it IS signed on it's non US-92 alignment. [1] [2]

Not sure why it isn't signed from I-4, but it is at least signed from US-92, and will be included between I-4 & US-92.

[rickmastfan67]

FL 594 (I-175)

FL594 is signed between FL687_S and FL687_N

Alright, finally far enough along do deal with this route.

Now, we know the route is signed (only going WB) between the two directions of FL-687 (hidden US-92 per FDOT GIS data, but that's a different story) since it's on separate one-way roads.  Now, as it stands, FL-687 has a 'centered' point for FL-594, but FL-594 has separate points for each way of FL-687.  So, do we just chalk this up to being one route that will not be shown in the "Intersecting highways shown" feature when it comes to TM, or should we try to figure out how to somehow sync the two for at least one of the intersections on FL-687?

If I wanted to have the two routes synced to any of the two ways of FL-687, I'd sync it with 4th Street so that I-175 can be included properly in this clusterfuck since FL-594 is the hidden number for it.

Once we can decide how to deal with FL-594, I'll get another batch of fixed routes ready to upload to the site.

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As for FL-595, I think keeping it between US-92 & US-19 would be the best solution since at several cross streets per StreetView, there is still signage for it (including at US-19's intersection).  If later all that signage gets replaced with US-19 Alternate signage, then we can consider axing that part of the route too to the 'hidden' land of unsigned FL state routes. lol.

[rickmastfan67]

FL707.  This one is weird.  On the delete side:  It's not in the FLDOT shapefiles.  And it's signed as CR707 in downtown Stuart.  However, in the streetview, there are multiple FL 707 shields north of the drawbridge up to "TO US 1"/NW Wright Blvd.

Between June '15 & Sept '16, FL-707 shields were removed from around the intersection of Wright Blvd & Dixie Hwy per StreetView.  Would be assuming that the remaining ones around the bridge have been removed as well.  Though Sept '16 imagery on US-1 still shows a few FL-707 shields for the SB ramp.

So, with this evidence, and with it no longer being in the GIS data, FL-707 will be axed.

[rickmastfan67]

FL750:  The route was extended west from FL291 to US29, and that's what's in the shapefiles.  However, there is currently no FL750 signage that I could find west of FL291, including with the interchange with I-110. 

January '17 StreetView shows a pair of FL-750 shields between I-110 & FL-291 (also still seen going back as far as June '13).  However, April '16 shows nothing between I-110 & US-29.  So, for the moment, I'll at least extend it to I-110.

[rickmastfan67]

And now FL-539 to FL-802 have just been updated and the first new routes above 802 have also been added in ages.

[Jim]

And now FL-539 to FL-802 have just been updated and the first new routes above 802 have also been added in ages.

That's worthy of a site update.  I'll launch one now.

[Jim]

Minor items: FL 50's points at I-75 and I-4 don't need exit numbers.

[JJBers]

Any eta dates yet? I have a lot of mileage on this system.

[rickmastfan67]

Any eta dates yet? I have a lot of mileage on this system.

No ETA...  I work on this when I have the free time.  Just was lucky enough to have the time to finally get everything old up-to-date pretty much.  Now comes the time of creating new files which takes a little longer to do.

[yakra]

Now, we know the route is signed (only going WB) between the two directions of FL-687 ... since it's on separate one-way roads.

WB is a typo for EB, I presume.

Now, as it stands, FL-687 has a 'centered' point for FL-594, but FL-594 has separate points for each way of FL-687.

Aah, I see that FL687 has changed since you wrote your post. K. Moving on...

So, do we just chalk this up to being one route that will not be shown in the "Intersecting highways shown" feature when it comes to TM, or should we try to figure out how to somehow sync the two for at least one of the intersections on FL-687?

If I wanted to have the two routes synced to any of the two ways of FL-687, I'd sync it with 4th Street so that I-175 can be included properly in this clusterfuck since FL-594 is the hidden number for it.

Looks like this is what you did. Yeah man, I'm on board with your solution. For the (graphing) reasons you cited, as well as...
Well, consider FL594 as a bit of an (*ahem*) operational part of the couplet, paired with the northbound alignment of FL687 on 3rd St. If the 175-594-687 corridor were a single route here that turned a corner, that's where I would put the waypoint.  Way I look at things, it's about optimal from the visual/graphing/logical/what-have-you standpoint.

[rickmastfan67]

Minor items: FL 50's points at I-75 and I-4 don't need exit numbers.

I-4's is because it's synced label wise with US-17 & US-92.

I'll fix the I-75 one.