fragesdXX: Grand-Est Routes Départementales

[michih]

fragesd6ae - Collectivité européenne d'Alsace Routes Départementales
fragesm6ae - Eurométropole de Strasbourg Routes Métropolitaines

6AE is confirmed being the official code: https://www.iso.org/obp/ui/#iso:code:3166:FR

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M31, M35, M37, M41, M45, M61, M63, M64, M83, M84 - fine

M93 - End -> RueMou_W

M111, M118 - fine

M120 - eastern end seems odd, so short from the main road (ex-N68). Not saying its wrong, saying its strange. (There's other odd ends, but this seemed the strangest). Double check where roads peter out in the city

M161, M165, M174, M184, M185, M194, M215, M221, M222, M223 - fine

M225 - D30 -> M30? (and add route, splitting D30) or is this D30 running for a stretch inside the Metropole?

M226 - add point in the middle of Eckwersheim to help distinguish where the route is

M263 - metropolitan boundary slightly south of A4. Acceptable fudge, though boundary runs along road and OSM has that bit as D263. Check

M284, M301, M302, M345 - fine

M351 - the transition point to D1004 is further west, between the M228 and A355 junctions (you have the wrong boundary)

M353, M384, M392, M400, M445, M451, M468, M468Hon, M484, M545, M563, M622, M718, M745, M863, M884, M885, M963, M2350 - fine

[michih]

https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/6082

M93 - End -> RueMou_W

I think that the road (temporarily) ended here due to the motorway construction. M93 extends to Ernolsheim now according to September 2022 GSV, also confirmed by OSM + GM. Thus, I've extended D93 and M93.

M120 - eastern end seems odd, so short from the main road (ex-N68). Not saying its wrong, saying its strange. (There's other odd ends, but this seemed the strangest). Double check where roads peter out in the city

Either shp files (I try to download them from noreaster right now but it's damn slow) or GSV. I remember that GSV was partially older when I drafted the system than M route signs appeared in the field. It seems that parts of Strasbourg are covered by Sommer 2022 GSV now. I'll have a deeper look into it when I have the shp files.

M225 - D30 -> M30? (and add route, splitting D30) or is this D30 running for a stretch inside the Metropole?

M225 intersects D30 according to September 2021 GSV.

M263 - metropolitan boundary slightly south of A4. Acceptable fudge, though boundary runs along road and OSM has that bit as D263. Check

Also later...

M351 - the transition point to D1004 is further west, between the M228 and A355 junctions (you have the wrong boundary)

Dunno, I think it's as it is because the motorway (former A351) ended here. Changed now.

[michih]

https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/6088

M120 - eastern end seems odd, so short from the main road (ex-N68). Not saying its wrong, saying its strange. (There's other odd ends, but this seemed the strangest). Double check where roads peter out in the city
M263 - metropolitan boundary slightly south of A4. Acceptable fudge, though boundary runs along road and OSM has that bit as D263. Check

Short answer: shp files coords.

Long answer for specific routes:
I've checked M223, M63, M185, M31 (very tiny adjustment to meet shp file coords), M120 (tiny adjustment), M468 (kept as-is because the shp end is not exatly where we put wps but in the junction, 0.02mi away), M263 (kept as-is to keep graph connection with M468, route is 0.13mi longer than in shp file), M392 (tiny adjustment), M41 (kept as-is although shp file end is 0.03mi beyond the junction) and M745.

M2350 is odd though. There is no 2020 shp file because A350 was downgraded to N2350 in 2015, the eastern segment of the now-N2350 to whatever in 2016, and the western segment to M2350 in 2021. OSM indicates "M2350" on the western segment only, GM "N2350" on both, wikisara only indicates "M2350" for the segment downgraded in 2021. September 2022 GSV still indicates "N2350" on M35 (still signed as A35), and even "A350" on the next direction sign. The km0 post indicates A350 too. No numbers beyond exit 2 on summer 2022 GSV.
I've now truncated M2350 from Avenue Herrenschmidt to exit 2 as indicated on OSM + wikisara + GSV with "old numbers".


https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/blob/master/hwy_data/FRA-GES/fragesd/README.md

`M353` west end between `M35`/`M400` interchange and `M84` could be `M401` (shp files + renumbering map) but OSM indicates it being `M353` all the way which makes pretty much sense, no updated numbering visible on 2020 GSV -> to be checked before activation

Done now. M353 is signed on August 2022 GSV (and October 2020 too). Keep as-is, readme line removed.

`M445` south end (south of railway) on OSM differs to shp files, shp route is permanently closed according to 2008 + 2019 + 2022 GSV, drafted according to OSM

Confirmed by 2022 GSV. No sign at M392. Kept as-as.

3 point out of 119 shp file points for better understanding (first, last and where diverting):

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F http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=48.580471&lon=7.687005
D http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=48.563141&lon=7.689964
L http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=48.558717&lon=7.687300
And just for completion:

- `M763` is only a short one-way street of `M63`, not drafted

OSM indicates M345 for the segment between "D" and "L" but there is really a M345 far away. Keep everything as-is.

[michih]

Further comments on fragesm6ae - Eurométropole de Strasbourg Routes Métropolitaines before activation?

The NMPs have been marked FP.

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Nothing more to say.

[michih]

fragesm6ae - Eurométropole de Strasbourg Routes Métropolitaines will be active with the next site update.

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D1, D1.1, D1.3, D1.4, D1.5 - fine

D1.6 - PlaMai -> RueSch

D1.7, D1.8, D1.9 - fine

D1B - D415_E -> D415

D1BIng, D1BRib, D1B1, D1B2, D1B3, D1B4 - fine

D2
 - D20/D401 -> D20 (unless D401 should be added, in which case add)
 - D401_N -> RueReg (unless D401 should be added, in which case add)
 - move D201_N to roundabout to the north (route rerouted onto new road, old route closed)
 - move D201_S to where D201_N currently is (route rerouted onto new road, old route closed)

D2B2 - fine

D3
 - D503_W -> D503
 - D51/D503 -> D51

D3.1, D3.2, D3B, D3B3, D3B4, D3B6, D4, D4.1, D4.2, D4.3, D4B, D4B1, D4B1Rae, D4B2, D4BBan - fine

D5, D5.1, D5.2, D5.3, D5.4, D5.5, D5.6, D5.8, D5.9, D5B1, D5B3, D6, D6.1, D6B, D6B1, D7, D7B - fine

D8 - swap D2_N and D2_S labels

D8.1, D8.2, D8.3, D8B1, D8B2 - fine

D8B3 - add point for Blvd des Nations as major road

D9, D9.1, D9.2, D9B, D9B1, D9B2, D9B3, D9B4 - fine

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D10, D10.1, D10.3, D10.4, D10.5, D10.6, D10.7, D10B, D11, D11.1 - fine

D11.2 - add point for Kreuzweg (leads to end of D10.5)

D11.3, D11.4, D11.5, D11.6, D11.8, D12, D12B, D12B1, D12B2, D12B3, D12B4, D12B6 - fine

D13, D13B, D13B1, D13B2, D13B3, D13B4, D13B5, D13B6, D13B8, D13B9 - fine

D14, D14B, D14BMan, D14BSop, D14B1, D14B2, D14B3, D14B4, D15, D15.1 - fine

D16, D16Hag, D16.1, D16.2, D16.3, D16.4, D16.5, D16.6, D17, D17.1, D17.2 - fine

D18, D18.1, D18.2, D18.3, D18.4, D18.5, D18.6, D18.7, D18B, D18B1, D18B2, D18B3, D18B4 - fine

D19, D19.1, D19.2, D19.3, D19B, D19B1, D19B2, D19B3 - fine

D20 - move D83 to a better location

D20Wit - D2/D401 -> D2

D20.1, D20.2, D20.3, D20.4, D20.5, D20B, D21, D21.1, D21.2 - fine

D21.3 - move D469 to roundabout

D21.4, D21.5, D21.6, D21.7 - fine

D21B - D23_W -> D23_E

D21B1, D21B2, D21B3, D22, D23 - fine

D23Ley - D9B/D12B -> D9B

D23.1, D23.2, D23.3, D23.4, D23.5, D23.6, D24, D24.1, D24.2, D24.3, D25, D25Ett, D25.1, D25.2, D26, D26.1, D26.2 - fine

D26.3 - D26 -> D26/D32

D26.4, D27, D27.1, D28, D29 - fine

[michih]

https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/6273

D2
 - D20/D401 -> D20 (unless D401 should be added, in which case add)
 - D401_N -> RueReg (unless D401 should be added, in which case add)

D20Wit - D2/D401 -> D2

I've added two new routes: D401 and D2B. As usual, when the label indicates a route that isn't there, I usually forgot drafting the route (D3's D51/D503 wp is a rare exception)

D8 - swap D2_N and D2_S labels

_W/_E

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D30, D31, D32, D32.1, D32.2, D32.3, D32.4 - fine

D32.5 - D485 -> D483

D32.6, D32.7, D32.8, D32.9 - fine

D33
 - does it reach the D426?
 - D526_N is probably the wrong label as there's not actually a junction with the D526 there unless the D33 is the (unsigned) southbound route and D526 just the northbound. Also it seems like it's not in the right place.

D34, D34.1, D34.2, D34.3, D34.5, D34.6, D35, D35.1, D35.2, D36, D37, D38, D39 - fine

D40, D40.1, D40.2, D40.3, D40.4, D40.5, D41, D41.1, D41.2, D42, D42.1 - fine

D43, D44, D44.1, D44.2, D45, D47, D47.1, D47.2, D48, D48.2, D48.3, D48.4 - fine

D50, D51, D52, D53, D54, D55, D56, D56.1, D56.2, D56.3, D56.4, D57, D58, D59 - fine

D60, D61, D62, D64, D65, D66, D66Pfa, D66Rix, D67, D68, D69, D70 - fine

D72 - D227 -> D227_S

D73, D74, D75, D76, D77, D78, D79 - fine

D80 - D248_N / _S need suffix swapping

D81, D82 - fine

D83
 - move D1059 slightly to (new?) junction
 - D1B/D1B2 - is this not just 'D1B' with 'D1B2' included in that?
 - add point corresponding to 'RueRad' to D3B3 or remove

D85, D86, D87, D88, D89, D90, D90Wol, D91, D92, D93, D94, D95 - fine

D96 - add point for RueMon (leads to A4 exit 42)

D97, D98, D99 - fine

[michih]

https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/6276

D33
 - does it reach the D426?
 - D526_N is probably the wrong label as there's not actually a junction with the D526 there unless the D33 is the (unsigned) southbound route and D526 just the northbound. Also it seems like it's not in the right place.

D526 is the northbound route and D33 the soutbound route according to the Bas-Rhin shp files.
D526_N is currently exactly at the coords of the D526 shp file. Should I move it 200-300m to the south?

I only modified the coords for the D426 roundabout so far, since they've been a little bit off.

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D526_N is currently exactly at the coords of the D526 shp file. Should I move it 200-300m to the south?

I don't think it's off by that amount - it just seems a little late for the two directions to merge.

anyway, the 100s...

D2B, D100, D101, D102, D103, D103Asp, D104, D105 - fine

D106, D107, D108, D109, D110, D111, D112, D113, D114, D115 - fine

D116 - D633 is off (new build junction)

D117, D118, D119, D120, D121, D122, D123, D124, D125, D126 - fine

D127, D128, D129, D130, D131, D132, D133, D134, D135, D136 - fine

D137, D137Ses, D138, D139, D140, D141, D142, D143, D144, D145, D146 - fine

D147 - A35 is NMP

D148 - delete D148-88Bon

D149, D151, D152, D153 - fine

D155 - D430 -> D429/D430

D156 - D213 -> D214

D157, D158, D159, D160, D161, D162, D163, D164 - fine

D166 - A36 is NMP

D167, D170, D171, D172, D173, D175 - fine

D176 - D1340 -> D519/D1340

D177, D178, D179, D180, D181, D182, D183, D186, D187, D189 - fine

D190, D191, D191Urm, D192, D193, D196, D197, D198, D199 - fine

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D200, D201, D202, D203, D204, D205, D206, D206Ben, D207 - fine

D208 - DD111_E -> D111_E

D209, D210, D211, D212, D213, D214, D215, D216, D217, D218, D219 - fine

D220 - D228_W -> D228_E, D228_E -> D228_W

D222, D223, D224, D225, D226, D227, D227Wit, D228, D229, D230, D231 - fine

D232 - D59_S -> D59_W

D233, D234, D235, D236, D237, D238, D239, D240, D241, D242, D243, D244, D245 - fine

D246 - D734 -> D734/D752

D247, D248, D249, D250, D251 - fine

D252 - D919 is off (new roundabout)

D253, D254, D255, D256, D257, D258, D258Hir, D259, D260, D261, D263, D264, D266 - fine

D275, D280, D282, D283, D286, D288, D290, D292, D296, D297 - fine

[michih]

https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/6290