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Offline si404

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Re: Australia
« Reply #105 on: December 18, 2019, 04:41:11 am »
I probably won't be able to look into NT until January. There's Victoria, South Australia and Tasmania that could still be reviewed in the meantime without this issue needing to be dealt with (if you have time).

I've fixed the Victoria issue that yakra raised by relabeling the A10 points with directional suffixes.

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Re: Australia
« Reply #106 on: January 10, 2020, 08:07:54 am »
Here's what I've found for the various routes that are labeled Nxx or NTxx within the HB:
- N1 -> part of A1
Where?

I've been unable to find any A1 signs on it. Apparently it's meant to become B1 and C1. Leaving as N1 for now.
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- NT21 -> A21 at south end, B21 at north end
There's one A21 sign, with everything else being either NH21 (green+gold shields), NT21 (blue+white shields) or B21 - calling it B21, which is what it seems to have been allocated.

It really doesn't help that NT is doing a rolling replacement of signs (so only when they are replaced), meaning slow implementation of the new system. This is avoided by any route being seen to have an alphanumeric sign gets an alphanumeric number. However it does mean that on the ground info is often unhelpful - which when coupled to being really remote (2 urban areas of any notable size - Darwin being 150k and Alice Springs 25k and the other 75k being spread out over the rest of this Alaska-sized area) means that there's little local knowledge, few trip photos and GSV is justifiably lazy at covering it frequently and when stuff like the future C1 is an unpaved road in the middle of nowhere, comprehensively is a tall ask!

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Re: Australia
« Reply #107 on: January 10, 2020, 08:19:15 pm »
Here's what I've found for the various routes that are labeled Nxx or NTxx within the HB:
- N1 -> part of A1
Where?

I've been unable to find any A1 signs on it. Apparently it's meant to become B1 and C1. Leaving as N1 for now.

At the junction with 87, this appears to say A1 pointing east.

Of course this could easily be a similar situation as with 21 - likely just the government failing to be consistent with what's A vs. B vs. C. I get the sense that numerical route designations in NT are rather an afterthought. The government's own website makes no mention of route numbers at all and refers to roads strictly by name.

I'm fine with leaving this as N1 until further info is available. That said I will also note that I am unable to locate a primary source for what the road is "meant to become" - I can only find a couple hobby sites from Australian roadgeeks discussing the alphanumeric system for NT and neither of them has any citations.

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Re: Australia
« Reply #108 on: March 23, 2020, 08:41:32 pm »
Getting back on this horse. Leaving NT aside for now, tackling QLD instead.

AUS-QLD A1:
- general note: there are some pretty long sections between visible points where crossroads do exist. Consider adding points
- QLD25_E -> QLD25
- CaiRd -> DraRd
- ElAriMisBeaRd -> CasDr
- TulMisBeaRd -> TulMBRd (per waypoint labeling guidelines)
- IngHalBerRd -> IngHBRd
- JaneSt -> PalTer
- A6 -> QLD17
- PortAccRd -> A6
- QueSt -> QueSt_N
- LowDonRd needs recentering
- GreCanValRd -> GreCVRd
- QLD6 -> ShuHarRd (no signage for QLD 6 here)
- MirMtOssaRd -> MirMORd
- MtOssaSeaRd -> MOSeaRd
- ManHamRd -> MarHamRd
- StLawConRd -> StLawRd
- RocYepRd -> T10
- MooCreRd -> MooCreRd_N
- DerSt -> DenSt
- GeoSt -> GeoSt_N
- QLD16_Mir -> LarSt (no signage for QLD 16 here)
- GinGinMtPerRd -> QLD12
- WillSt -> T12_N
- QL86 -> QLD86
- QL57 -> QLD57/T12
- FraRd -> T40_N
- TinCanBayRd -> QLD15/T40

AUS-QLD A2:
- QLD76 -> GDCamRd (QLD 76 is not signed)
- there are signs for an ALT A2 in Winton. Add to ausab?
- QLD79 -> N79? (signed with white shield rather than blue)
- AmbyWalSt -> AmbyWalRd
- A55 needs recentering
- combine GatHeiRd and LawRd (one point per interchange)

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Re: Australia
« Reply #109 on: April 05, 2020, 08:51:53 pm »
AUS-QLD A3:
- LisSt -> QLD69
- add point for QLD12 at http://www.openstreetmap.org/-25.09484/151.22891
- MPGayRd needs recentering
- SaaRd -> QLD68
- QLD41 -> T41
- WarSt -> T11

AUS-QLD A3Bri:
- GypRd_N -> GymRd_N

AUS-QLD A4:
- CleAlphRd -> QLD41

AUS-QLD A5:
- QLD7 -> FitDelRd
- appears it may continue south concurrent with A39 to Boundary Rd/Barwion Hwy intersection. Signs at northern junction state this and QTOPO map also shows it (at some zoom levels?): http://qtopo.dnrm.qld.gov.au/mobile/

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Re: Australia
« Reply #110 on: April 19, 2020, 05:42:26 pm »
Very minor point, but the spur of Tasmania N1 that's its own page { austas.n001lau } should read Launceston. (It currently reads Lauriceston.) No other adjustment needed, but the name of the town was typed wrong.

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Re: Australia
« Reply #111 on: May 20, 2020, 01:45:14 am »
Drove from Uluru to Coober Pedy and back in December last year. Unfortunately most sign pictures I have were from SA, not NT. As with the rest of outback Australia, I recall all paved roads being posted with route numbers, though the locals referred to them by name. IIRC there was a change in numbering when crossing the SA/NT border. In SA, it was numbered "A87" on signs, so that would make it N87 or just 87 in the NT, though I don't remember which one it was or whether it was both. Photos from my April 2010 drive through the NT show all highways being numbered without prefixes. In the Outback it seems numbers come and go, but names are forever.

IIRC NT-4 was labeled exclusively as just 4, and I don't recall seeing any "B4" on any signage. No data to add on what is "supposed to come." Only a confirmation that this was numbered, but I suspect GSV could tell you that too.
« Last Edit: May 20, 2020, 11:22:36 am by ua747sp »

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AUS-WA: realigned N1 and N95 north of Perth?
« Reply #112 on: August 07, 2020, 09:19:31 pm »
Does anyone know if N1 has been realigned at Muchea? N95 had at least a small change when the WA4 freeway was extended north.

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Re: AUS-WA: realigned N1 and N95 north of Perth?
« Reply #113 on: August 08, 2020, 02:20:32 am »
System still in preview. Merging.