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Offline mapcat

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MD: S end of MD 223
« on: April 07, 2021, 11:16:03 am »
Looks like the roads were reconfigured recently and the south end has been pulled back to the 223/Floral Park Rd intersection.
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Re: MD: S end of MD 223
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2021, 07:39:55 pm »
Hmmmm....

So, poking around Street View yields a couple things:
1) The end of Floral Park Rd at Livingston Rd was barricaded sometime between May 2009 and September 2012, and then formally deconstructed down to a bike/ped connection only sometime between then and August 2019.
2) That Begin north MD 223 shield linked above was installed sometime between May 2009 and August 2012. However, down at Livingston Rd, this shield which implies a beginning of MD 223 further south was there in September 2012 and was still there as of August 2019.

This means signage is inconsistent, which in turn means the operating principle is to defer to what is on paper. 2018 HLR (most recent available) lists the terminus of MD 223 as "road end: barricade" and lists this as being on Floral Park Rd.


Ergo, a small adjustment is needed to move the endpoint away from an intersection that no longer exists (for motor vehicles anyway) to the dead end of Floral Park Rd. But a truncation of MD 223 back to where the begin sign is at Floral Park and Piscataway should not occur unless and until one of the following two things happens:
- the MD 223 shield on Livingston Rd is confirmed to be removed
- an update to HLR shows such a truncation
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Re: MD: S end of MD 223
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2021, 08:37:53 am »
Interesting. Does MDOT typically imply "TO" rather than sign it? I'll check it out and let you know if I notice any changes there.
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Re: MD: S end of MD 223
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2021, 03:48:11 pm »
« Last Edit: Yesterday at 08:15:19 am by Markkos1992 »

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Re: MD: S end of MD 223
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2021, 02:30:55 am »

 2018 HLR (most recent available) lists the terminus of MD 223 as "road end: barricade" and lists this as being on Floral Park Rd.

Ergo, a small adjustment is needed to move the endpoint away from an intersection that no longer exists (for motor vehicles anyway) to the dead end of Floral Park Rd.

Apparently that adjustment had already been made. If you zoom in enough the "End" point really is where the car-driveable pavement ends.

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Re: MD: S end of MD 223
« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2021, 11:28:27 pm »
Ergo, a small adjustment is needed to move the endpoint away from an intersection that no longer exists (for motor vehicles anyway) to the dead end of Floral Park Rd.

Apparently that adjustment had already been made. If you zoom in enough the "End" point really is where the car-driveable pavement ends.

Well yes, because I made it a couple days ago after posting that. ;)

I think it could go either way based on MD 79 (https://forum.travelmapping.net/index.php?topic=4169.0) and MD 353 (https://forum.travelmapping.net/index.php?topic=4182.0).

It is worth noting that in both of those cases the change made matches the latest HLR.

In this case too, the change I made matches the latest HLR - however, signage is not quite consistent.

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Re: MD: S end of MD 223
« Reply #6 on: Yesterday at 08:16:06 am »
^Right, I should have clarified that I was specifically responding to mapcat's question.

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Re: MD: S end of MD 223
« Reply #7 on: Yesterday at 09:13:42 pm »
Drove past today and there’s no change in signage. Nothing along Floral Park at all, not that it’s necessary. 206 also has a Begin sign in the wrong place as well so this isn’t the only example of misleading signage. Actually there’s one more too but I’ll start another post for that.
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