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Re: FRA: Massive downgrade of autoroutes & routes nationale
« Reply #15 on: October 28, 2024, 02:11:26 pm »
  • Auvergne-Rhône-Alpes (ARA):
    • N102
The segment through Le-Puy-en-Valey was downgraded to D902 in 2021. D906 was upgraded to N102. See 2024 GSV. N102 should have been transferred to the region from 2024-01-01 but is announced to be transferred on 2025-01-01 now.

https://routes.fandom.com/wiki/Route_nationale_fran%C3%A7aise_102
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Route_nationale_102_(France_m%C3%A9tropolitaine)

Nonetheless, a new N102 section was opened today :D I've added it as "N102 Arvant" albeit I assume that it should be plain N102, and the old route (only RMA58 and me have traveled it) should be N2102 now. It is all announced to be downgraded to D routes in just two months.

https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/7858

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FRA-IDF N410 is gone
« Reply #16 on: December 12, 2024, 08:21:36 pm »
N410 was abandoned in 2023. This is confirmed by a 2024 photo on Mapillary.
This also affects FRA-IDF A1 2 and labels on FRA-IDF D24-93 and FRA-IDF D941-93.

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Re: FRA: Massive downgrade of autoroutes & routes nationale
« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2025, 03:05:40 pm »
  • Grand Est (GES):
    • A30
    • A31
    • A33
    • A313
    • N4
    • N44
    • N52 between the A30 motorway and the Belgian border
    • N431
Grand Est has reportingly taken over 525km of national roads at the beginning of 2025.

https://www.virgule.lu/granderegion/france/les-poids-lourds-devront-payer-pour-circuler-sur-l-a31-a-partir-de-2027/32491557.html

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Re: FRA: Occitanie transfer/downgrade
« Reply #18 on: February 01, 2025, 11:05:38 am »
    Splitting the list by regions.

Legend:
Implemented in HB
Should be transferred but not yet confirmed on maps
Should be transferred but new numbering unknown
No info
Transfer refused / not in HB


Aveyron (OCC 12):
  • N88 between the Lachet interchange and the A75 motorway    Section D888_Ole - A75 downgraded to D888 in 2024 but OSM, GM and August 2024 do still indicate N88. Transfer of adjacent section to OCC region postponed, see below.
Haute-Garonne (OCC 31):
N124/N224/N542 in OCC-31/32 routes were still signed as N roads when I traveled them in September 2024, OSM + GM do still indicate N numbers as-of February 2025 (N542 has D numbers on OSM since July 2024).


Gers (OCC 32):
N124/N224/N542 in OCC-31/32 routes were still signed as N roads when I traveled them in September 2024, OSM + GM do still indicate N numbers as-of February 2025 (N542 has D numbers on OSM since July 2024). Same for N21 that I traveled on the northern segment only.


Lot (OCC 46):
Pyrénées-Orientales (OCC 66):
Toulouse (OCC 31M):

No info about A routes, but Toulouse rejected the transfer of all N roads. Assuming that the same happened to A routes (OTOH, they might have kept their A numbering anyway)
Occitanie (OCC):
  • A68
  • N20
  • N22
  • N88 with the exception of the section located between the Lachet interchange and the A75 motorway
  • N125
  • N320
All routes should have been transferred to OCC region in 2025 but were then refused by OCC. See all wikisara articles, e.g. https://routes.fandom.com/wiki/Autoroute_fran%C3%A7aise_A68#Pr%C3%A9sentation


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Re: Pays-de-la-Loire downgrade
« Reply #19 on: February 01, 2025, 12:28:43 pm »
Maine-et-Loire (PDL 49):
  N162

Mayenne (PDL 53):
  N162

Both downgraded in 2024. Both are numbered D962 according to OSM + GM: https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/8128

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Re: Île-de-France
« Reply #20 on: February 01, 2025, 12:52:39 pm »
Île-de-France, all done now:

N410 was abandoned in 2023. This is confirmed by a 2024 photo on Mapillary.
This also affects FRA-IDF A1 2 and labels on FRA-IDF D24-93 and FRA-IDF D941-93.

https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/8129

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Re: Bourgogne-Franche-Comté transfer/downgrade
« Reply #21 on: February 01, 2025, 01:44:17 pm »
Legend:
Implemented in HB
Should be transferred but not yet confirmed on maps
Should be transferred but new numbering unknown
No info
Transfer refused / not in HB


Côte-d'Or (BFC 21):
Haute-Saône (BFC 70):
Dijon (BFC 21M):

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Re: Provence-Alpes-Cote-d’Azur transfer/downgrade
« Reply #22 on: February 02, 2025, 03:38:23 am »
Bouches-du-Rhône (PAC 13):

The autoroutes should have been transferred in 2024. e.g. mentioned for A55 but only with a reference to the legislative text from January 2023 i.e. no confirmation that it actually happened; I didn't spot any numbering change on OSM, GM nor October 2024 GSV; Anyhow, I assume that the autoroute numbering will remain as-is. To be revisited to make sure that there is really no renumbering on transfer.

  • A7
  • A50
  • A51
  • A55
  • A501
  • A502
  • A507
  • A515
  • A517 - only ramps of A7/A51 interchange, not in HB
  • A551 - only ramps of the A7/A55 interchange, not in HB
  • A552 - only ramps of the A7/A55 interchange, not in HB
  • A557
No info about N routes:
Vaucluse (PAC 84):
https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/8133
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Re: Auvergne-Rhône-Alpes transfer/downgrade
« Reply #23 on: February 02, 2025, 05:19:29 am »
Legend:
Implemented in HB
Should be transferred but not yet confirmed on maps
Should be transferred but new numbering unknown
No info
Transfer refused / not in HB



Isère (ARA 38):
Rhône (ARA 69):
Lyon (ARA 69M):
  • N6    It's a short segment betweeen A89 and A6, was already signed as D306 for years. Should be fraaram69 system that is not yet in HB, no action required for TM
Auvergne-Rhône-Alpes (ARA):

Document from ARA region with > 1400 pages about road conditions but missing future numbering; The document indicates the transfer to be happen on 2025-01-01.

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Re: Grand Est transfer/downgrade
« Reply #24 on: February 02, 2025, 02:42:00 pm »
Legend:
Implemented in HB
Should be transferred but not yet confirmed on maps
Should be transferred but new numbering unknown
No info
Transfer refused / not in HB


Haute-Marne (GES 52):
Moselle (GES 57):
Grand Est (GES):

Grand Est region has reportingly taken over 525km of national roads at the beginning of 2025.
  • A30     Assuming that the numbering remains as-is
  • A31     Assuming that the numbering remains as-is
  • A33     Assuming that the numbering remains as-is
  • A313   Assuming that the numbering remains as-is
  • N4     
  • N44     
  • N52 between the A30 motorway and the Belgian border     
  • N431     
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