LIE H16

[Duke87]

So for a while I was operating under the assumption we did not have any routes mapped in Liechtenstein since I did not see a Lichtenstein system in the highway browser. Then I stumbled upon this: https://travelmapping.net/hb/showroute.php?units=miles&u=null&r=lie.h016

Since this is decidedly not in Switzerland, shouldn't there be a separate Liechtenstein Hauptstrassen system for it?

Users will not expect to find it buried in the Switzerland system (I certainly didn't!), so having it there hides its existence.

[the_spui_ninja]

For that matter is it even signed? When I visited Liechtenstein I don't remember seeing any signage for it and I was looking.

[michih]

So for a while I was operating under the assumption we did not have any routes mapped in Liechtenstein since I did not see a Lichtenstein system in the highway browser.

You could simply use mapview.

Since this is decidedly not in Switzerland, shouldn't there be a separate Liechtenstein Hauptstrassen system for it?

It is one system* extending to more an one country. It's on the Swiss administrative list for Hauptstrassen: https://www.fedlex.admin.ch/eli/cc/1992/341_341_341/de#annex_2/lvl_u1/lvl_A

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strassensystem_in_der_Schweiz_und_in_Liechtenstein#Hauptstrassen

Side note, I just realized that the railway is administrated by Austria: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liechtenstein#Transport

16. (D)–Tägerwilen–Märstetten–Wil–Wattwil–Wildhaus–Buchs–(A)

*There are also segments of German bundesstraße through Switzerland, Austria and Belgium. Nonetheless, they belong to the deub system.

For that matter is it even signed? When I visited Liechtenstein I don't remember seeing any signage for it and I was looking.

No. Switzerland is quite bad on signposting. It was challenging to draft the cheh system back then. btw, I will generally rework chea and cheh in the coming weeks.

[the_spui_ninja]

Since this is decidedly not in Switzerland, shouldn't there be a separate Liechtenstein Hauptstrassen system for it?

It is one system* extending to more an one country. It's on the Swiss administrative list for Hauptstrassen: https://www.fedlex.admin.ch/eli/cc/1992/341_341_341/de#annex_2/lvl_u1/lvl_A

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strassensystem_in_der_Schweiz_und_in_Liechtenstein#Hauptstrassen

Wonder if this is a legacy of Switzerland having a common economic/monetary area with Liechtenstein?

This is like WY 70 where it dips into Colorado (https://travelmapping.net/hb/showroute.php?u=null&r=co.wy070), think it should be fine to leave as is, especially since you can filter the HB by country.

 

[Duke87]

For that matter is it even signed? When I visited Liechtenstein I don't remember seeing any signage for it and I was looking.

Technically there are a couple of signs with 16 cartouches in Liechtenstein, but they do both squarely point towards Switzerland shortly before the border. Regardless, it's enough for me to be willing to go "eh, close enough" at LIE H16 being signed.

This is like WY 70 where it dips into Colorado (https://travelmapping.net/hb/showroute.php?u=null&r=co.wy070)

I don't think it's analagous because WY 70 exits and then reenters Wyoming. While a few examples are in the HB based on field signage, I do not believe there is officially, on paper, any example in the US of a state route that exits its parent state and does not subsequently reenter it. All cases in the HB are inventoried as something else on the far side of the state line.

Nonetheless, the fact that the Swiss government's website shows H16 going to Austria would appear to confirm that it is in fact their road. Strange. But so it goes.