usatr: United States select tourist routes

[si404]

I did think about the Lincoln Highway and Old National Road being included here. I'm leaning slightly to against, but only slightly.

Thoughts from the floor?

[SSOWorld]

Then what about the Great River Road? (Serious Question) - maybe a scenic byways group?

[yakra]

Against.

[mapcat]

I did think about the Lincoln Highway and Old National Road being included here. I'm leaning slightly to against, but only slightly.

Thoughts from the floor?

Against for now.

[froggie]

I did think about the Lincoln Highway and Old National Road being included here. I'm leaning slightly to against, but only slightly.

Thoughts from the floor?

Against for now.

Also against.

[bejacob]

Then what about the Great River Road? (Serious Question) - maybe a scenic byways group?

That sounds like a separate system. The big question is how much of those scenic byways are on roads not already signed as either US or state highways?

[froggie]

^ A fair bit of the Great River Road in Minnesota is on county routes.  Also some city streets in the Twin Cities.

[neroute2]

I would support a GRR file somewhere (and even draft the file if desired). In most states it's well signed, and often exists on secondary or county routes. I agree that it doesn't belong in usaush, but it's worth of including somewhere.

[Jim]

To me routes like GRR get in line for consideration once we have all state and provincial systems in North America to active status.

[si404]

That sounds like a separate system. The big question is how much of those scenic byways are on roads not already signed as either US or state highways?

Not a huge amount (especially when factoring in usanp and usaush), but there's some bits of All-American Roads that aren't. National Scenic byways is probably a similar proportion, though I haven't looked fully into that.

[Highway63]

Then what about the Great River Road? (Serious Question) - maybe a scenic byways group?

That sounds like a separate system. The big question is how much of those scenic byways are on roads not already signed as either US or state highways?

In Iowa, the GRR in part-to-half of Lee County, old IA 99, and most of Dubuque to Lansing is signed on county roads.

[neroute2]

Apparently this is a thing.

The following seem to me like clear additions:
*Jefferson Highway (Iowa)
*Appalachian Foothills Parkway (Georgia)
*Michigan Road (Indiana)
*National Road (Indiana)
*Crowley's Ridge Parkway (Arkansas)

Other possibilities:
*other byways in Iowa

[neroute2]

Great River Road errors:

Louisiana to come...

Supposedly the GRR uses old US 61 thru Lula and Tunica to Walls MS, but I can't find signage on either alignment.

Memphis from south to north: US 61, BB King Boulevard (US 64/70/79), Patterson Avenue, Main Street, Beale Street, Riverside Drive, Jefferson Avenue, Front Street, Willis Avenue, Island Drive, Mud Island Road, 2nd Street, Whitney Avenue, US 51

The GRR is signed in Missouri south from Perryville to the Arkansas line. It seems to follow US 61 except maybe at Kelso (I can't find any signs on either the old or the new alignment).

The GRR is signed in Missouri north from Hannibal to the Iowa line. It follows I-72, US 61, 168, US 61, US 61 Bus, B, US 61 Bus, and US 61.

IL GRREDu seems to be unsigned; shields begin in Wisconsin at the state line.

The GRR uses old US 61 thru Camanche IA.

The GRR uses Mud Lake/Circle Ridge Roads east of Sherrill IA.

The GRR uses CR 42, not MN 101 south of Elk River.

[webny99]

Is this system here to stay? If so, I'm suddenly tracking my travels on the Seaway Trail

[si404]

Memphis from south to north: US 61, BB King Boulevard (US 64/70/79), Patterson Avenue, Main Street, Beale Street, Riverside Drive, Jefferson Avenue, Front Street, Willis Avenue, Island Drive, Mud Island Road, 2nd Street, Whitney Avenue, US 51

signed? I spent a long time looking in Memphis and couldn't find enough signage to justify it, despite being lax when it came to clear gaps in the GRR like the East Duluth one.

Same goes for some of these other gaps (also National Road in Indiana and bits of the Lincoln Highway, though I was stricter with those) - I didn't find enough signs. Now sure, the problem might be me not spotting signs that are there, rather than not enough signage, and I'd be happy if that was the case, however I was pretty thorough at looking for signs in the GRR gaps.

IL GRREDu seems to be unsigned; shields begin in Wisconsin at the state line.

I don't know why I let that slide. Probably because it was short. But I didn't raise the bar for the Missouri or Memphis sections. I didn't find enough to justify a continuity closing of the gap in those places, despite having this.

The routing errors are a mix of laziness (oh, it's on this road now for umpty miles, let's jump to where it turns off it) and crappy mapping of the route that I had to rely on.