usatr: United States select tourist routes

[the_spui_ninja]

Cool, no hurry. Does it follow all of former US 312 from US 87 to I-94 east of Billings as far as you know?

Honestly until you mentioned that I had no idea it deviated from the official route in Montana! Looking around the Huntley/East Billings area it doesn't look like it jumps back to I-94 anywhere, so I think I'll route that branch off the interstate between I-90 Exit 456 and I-94 Exit 23 along BL 90, US 87, and Old 312 (which is state-maintained as... something... will have to look into that more closely).

[mapcat]

Cool, no hurry. Does it follow all of former US 312 from US 87 to I-94 east of Billings as far as you know?

Honestly until you mentioned that I had no idea it deviated from the official route in Montana! Looking around the Huntley/East Billings area it doesn't look like it jumps back to I-94 anywhere, so I think I'll route that branch off the interstate between I-90 Exit 456 and I-94 Exit 23 along BL 90, US 87, and Old 312 (which is state-maintained as... something... will have to look into that more closely).

Or it could just be a spur to Pompey's Pillar if there aren't any other signs. I hope to be in the area in a few days and will report anything else I see.

[rickmastfan67]

NM SFTrl:
FR2116 -> NM34

[the_spui_ninja]

Cool, no hurry. Does it follow all of former US 312 from US 87 to I-94 east of Billings as far as you know?

Honestly until you mentioned that I had no idea it deviated from the official route in Montana! Looking around the Huntley/East Billings area it doesn't look like it jumps back to I-94 anywhere, so I think I'll route that branch off the interstate between I-90 Exit 456 and I-94 Exit 23 along BL 90, US 87, and Old 312 (which is state-maintained as... something... will have to look into that more closely).

Or it could just be a spur to Pompey's Pillar if there aren't any other signs. I hope to be in the area in a few days and will report anything else I see.

Oh look a sign in Billings: https://www.google.com/maps/@45.7997312,-108.4810955,3a,15y,47.46h,90.1t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sgq_GzNDOH0k4-V_RfCxo8Q!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?coh=205409&entry=ttu

I'll stick with my branch-off-the-interstate plan for now, let me know if there's signage to the contrary.

[mapcat]

I didn't see any other signs for it on Hwy 312, which I took from that exit as far as SR 522, taking that back to I-94. This SR 568 sign is still up.

[mapcat]

In Nebraska, there's signage for the Lincoln Hwy along the former US 30 route west and east of North Bend.

[mapcat]

GMSV is ancient here, so there's no useful imagery, but I did see a sign for the Lincoln Hwy (in addition to the Pony Express Trail) headed southbound just past Wendover.

[mapcat]

Another signed Lincoln Hwy segment exists in Farmington, Utah.

[neroute2]

There is a well-signed piece of Old Spanish Trail north out of Santa Fe, from Paseo de Peralta to Tesuque.

[si404]

There is a well-signed piece of Old Spanish Trail north out of Santa Fe, from Paseo de Peralta to Tesuque.

I ran out of time to draft Old Spanish Trail sections. It doesn't help that there isn't, unlike the other mapped trails (there's also a couple more that I haven't looked at though same issue there, plus I didn't finish the Trail of Tears round up routes as they are a mess), an auto trail description set.

It actually starts at Palace Avenue, not quite making it to the square in the middle of Santa Fe.

[yakra]

id.ortrl.wpt has the same line twice in a row:
I-84(26) http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=43.690156&lon=-116.692700

wi.lmct
WI42 -> WI57

wi.lmctgre
For the 3 WI42_* points, suggest being consistent & using with _A _B _C or city suffixes

[yakra]

Why does Lewis & Clark Auto Trail (Dakotas-Nebraska) run north-to-south?
Haven't looked at usatr in enough detail to notice if other routes do too.

[si404]

Why does Lewis & Clark Auto Trail (Dakotas-Nebraska) run north-to-south?

Typically routes in the US are done west to east and south to north, we all know that. While that connected segment is somewhat N-S, the whole trail is an W-E route and therefore this connected route should run from its western end just east of the Montana border (where the two routes either side of the Missouri River merge into one route) to its eastern one at the Kansas border (where the signed routes don't line up).

https://travelmapping.net/user/mapview.php?rte=LCTrl <- this would show exactly what I mean if the system was in preview.

The route on the other side of the Missouri has been turned around, seen by border labels being the wrong way around, giving an east to west route. That's the one that needs fixing.
https://travelmapping.net/hb/showroute.php?r=ia.lctrl&cr

[yakra]

Typically routes in the US are done west to east and south to north, we all know that. While that connected segment is somewhat N-S, the whole trail is an W-E route and therefore this connected route should run from its western end just east of the Montana border

Gotcha, thanks.
(Lewis & Clark and all; one would think I could have figured that out...)

to its eastern one at the Kansas border

I asked because I'm working on a datacheck for border labels. So in this case, on ne.lctrl, KS/NE -> NE/KS.

(where the signed routes don't line up).

*slow clap*
I guess Nebraska wanted to keep their side on numbered routes, while Kansas wanted to keep theirs closer to the river & the explorers' actual route, and had a numbered route available? *Shrug.*

https://travelmapping.net/user/mapview.php?rte=LCTrl <- this would show exactly what I mean if the system was in preview.

The ConnectedRoute link in the HB did a good job of showing this.

The route on the other side of the Missouri has been turned around, seen by border labels being the wrong way around, giving an east to west route. That's the one that needs fixing.
https://travelmapping.net/hb/showroute.php?r=ia.lctrl&cr

IA,SD,MT: flip point order, keep border labels
ND: flip point order, SD/ND -> ND/SD, MT/ND stays as-is.

[yakra]

I'll make the KS/NE -> NE/KS change in Nebraska.