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NY: US 11/NY 41/NY 13/NY 222 in Cortland
« on: July 23, 2024, 08:29:25 am »

Watching this at 11:21, it seems that NY 13 now follows Port Watson to Church to Clinton, US 11/NY 41 follows Port Watson to Church to Clinton (with NY 222) before heading north, and NY 222 follows Clinton east with US 11/NY 41 to Church.

I am sure the New York peeps will clarify if I am stating this correctly.

A quick GSV look seems to clarify this.

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Re: NY: US 11/NY 41/NY 13/NY 222 in Cortland
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2024, 09:55:33 am »
Shapefiles concur.
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Re: NY: US 11/NY 41/NY 13/NY 222 in Cortland
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2024, 04:08:02 pm »
Street view shows that it's been like that since forever, so I'm not sure why TM has it differently.  The RIS Viewer and Traffic Data Viewer have a third way (up Church and Grant), but it's largely not supported by signage.

What a mess.  Following signage is probably the best way here.
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Re: NY: US 11/NY 41/NY 13/NY 222 in Cortland
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2024, 05:49:58 pm »
not sure why TM has it differently.
IIRC usany was the first state system drafted for CHM. We used Google Maps at the time, and its accuracy was not as good back then, c. 2009-2010.
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Re: NY: US 11/NY 41/NY 13/NY 222 in Cortland
« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2024, 09:16:54 pm »
Hoping to get a PR in for this before tonight's update.
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Re: NY: US 11/NY 41/NY 13/NY 222 in Cortland
« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2024, 09:36:37 pm »
AFAICT, the routes for 11/41 are signed different NB and SB.

US11/NY41 NB: Port Watson/Church/Clinton/Main
US11/NY41 SB: Main/Grant/Church/Port Watson

SB Turn to Grant
SB Turn to Church

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Re: NY: US 11/NY 41/NY 13/NY 222 in Cortland
« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2024, 09:42:38 pm »
PR will not be before tonight's update.
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Re: NY: US 11/NY 41/NY 13/NY 222 in Cortland
« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2024, 10:08:23 pm »
SB Turn to Grant
This is dated Oct 2019.
FFWD to Jul 2022, and there's a vertical Detour 11/41 assembly in front of the NY41 shield. Behind, trash bags are over the <- arrows, as if to say "Yes, this is US11 & NY41. Neither turn left."
By Aug 2023, the detour assembly is gone but the trash bags are still there, almost as if to just be plain reassurance marker. Maybe they forgot to take`em off?

SB Turn to Church
Meanwhile, this is also Aug 2023. As is this.

Another assembly seen in Aug 2018 got... knocked over or something?

Anyone handy to the area who can check on the current state of affairs in the field?
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Re: NY: US 11/NY 41/NY 13/NY 222 in Cortland
« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2024, 11:10:37 pm »
But wait, there's more! (Main and Clinton/Groton, looking south)
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Re: NY: US 11/NY 41/NY 13/NY 222 in Cortland
« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2024, 11:53:00 pm »
Haha noticed that too. Gotta wonder if there's some miscommunication going on between NYSDOT and the city of Cortland.
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