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Re: Project Statistics
« Reply #150 on: May 20, 2019, 11:18:52 pm »
VA I-95 near the Springfield Interchange. A bit south of it. Or wait, now I'm second-guessing myself. Was it closer to Richmond?
IIRC this was mentioned upthread -- only one of the segments, noting that it was tied but not specifying what with.

OK, I just cheated and looked at VA-region-traveled.tmg, and the two segments immediately south of the beltway have 137 travelers. Which ones have 138? Dunno. Anyone else?

Edit: I made a temporary mod to siteupdate.cpp, and found the segments. It was easier than writing something new to parse graphs. :) They are not where I expected.
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Re: Project Statistics
« Reply #151 on: May 21, 2019, 05:04:58 am »
Quote from: Jim on May 20, 2019, 10:34:53 pm
There are 2 of them tied, traveled by 138 of our 241 users, and they're consecutive edges along a single route.  What do you think?
That there's a shaping point shared between those two edges?
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Re: Project Statistics
« Reply #152 on: May 21, 2019, 07:10:31 am »
Quote from: si404 on May 21, 2019, 05:04:58 am
Quote from: Jim on May 20, 2019, 10:34:53 pm
There are 2 of them tied, traveled by 138 of our 241 users, and they're consecutive edges along a single route.  What do you think?
That there's a shaping point shared between those two edges?

No, 3 consecutive exits off a limited-access highway.
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Re: Project Statistics
« Reply #153 on: May 21, 2019, 12:10:50 pm »
I decided to look through my own travels, figuring I was likely one of the travelers, and I think I've found it:

DE I-95 4A 4B
DE I-95 4B 5A

Those segments show as being driven by 92.62% of DE I-95's total 149 drivers, and if my math is correct that would work out to 138.
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Re: Project Statistics
« Reply #154 on: May 21, 2019, 12:17:38 pm »
Quote from: Eth on May 21, 2019, 12:10:50 pm
I decided to look through my own travels, figuring I was likely one of the travelers, and I think I've found it:

DE I-95 4A 4B
DE I-95 4B 5A

Those segments show as being driven by 92.62% of DE I-95's total 149 drivers, and if my math is correct that would work out to 138.

These are the winners.  Lots of people on the Delaware Turnpike.
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Re: Project Statistics
« Reply #155 on: May 21, 2019, 12:26:24 pm »
Next TM traveler trivia question: of all of the graphs generated for the METAL project (http://travelmapping.net/graphs/) which one has the most-traveled least-traveled segment?  That is, look at each graph and find its least-traveled segment.  Then find the largest such value.  Guesses?
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Re: Project Statistics
« Reply #156 on: May 21, 2019, 06:21:24 pm »
TM-Master!  :P

I'm guessing you don't want to include the everything one. Asia has an awful lot of untravelled (and so least-travelled) segments, but I'm not sure that's the winner.
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Re: Project Statistics
« Reply #157 on: May 21, 2019, 08:23:49 pm »
Quote from: si404 on May 21, 2019, 06:21:24 pm
TM-Master!  :P

I'm guessing you don't want to include the everything one. Asia has an awful lot of untravelled (and so least-travelled) segments, but I'm not sure that's the winner.

The master graph definitely has some 0-traveler segments, so it's part of the 334-way tie for last place in this ranking.

In the other 52 graphs, every segment is clinched by at least one traveler.  The question is, for which graph is that minimum number of clinchers on any segment maximized.

The "area" graphs tend to be clustered near the top of this list because they're most likely to be in places people go like big cities.  However, the winner, and it's the winner by a significant margin, is a region graph.
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Re: Project Statistics
« Reply #158 on: May 21, 2019, 10:44:58 pm »
Quote from: Jim on May 21, 2019, 08:23:49 pm
The master graph definitely has some 0-traveler segments, so it's part of the 334-way tie for last place in this ranking.

In the other 52 graphs, every segment is clinched by at least one traveler.
Don't you mean, the other 65 graphs?

Quote from: Jim on May 21, 2019, 08:23:49 pm
The question is, for which graph is that minimum number of clinchers on any segment maximized.

The "area" graphs tend to be clustered near the top of this list because they're most likely to be in places people go like big cities.  However, the winner, and it's the winner by a significant margin, is a region graph.
Spoiler! :)
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Re: Project Statistics
« Reply #159 on: May 22, 2019, 03:46:53 am »
Quote from: Jim on May 21, 2019, 08:23:49 pm
The master graph definitely has some 0-traveler segments, so it's part of the 334-way tie for last place in this ranking.
Misread it as most least-travelled sections (I think Europe wins that as it has so many edges, and fewer travellers than North America), rather than the highest value for least-travelled section  :-[

Got the answer you are looking for as soon as I realised what it was you were asking for. A small graph in an urban area without many routes to deal with.
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Re: Project Statistics
« Reply #160 on: May 22, 2019, 06:57:15 am »
Quote from: yakra on May 21, 2019, 10:44:58 pm
Quote from: Jim on May 21, 2019, 08:23:49 pm
The master graph definitely has some 0-traveler segments, so it's part of the 334-way tie for last place in this ranking.

In the other 52 graphs, every segment is clinched by at least one traveler.
Don't you mean, the other 65 graphs?

I deleted a bunch that were invalid.  For some reason, the France "IGNORE TEST" systems confuse graph generation.

Related to that, if I can get a test DB to be more usable, can those test systems be moved out of the production DB?
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Re: Project Statistics
« Reply #161 on: May 22, 2019, 10:20:45 am »
Quote from: Jim on May 22, 2019, 06:57:15 am
I deleted a bunch that were invalid.  For some reason, the France "IGNORE TEST" systems confuse graph generation.
They break the assumption that an edge lives within a single region.
https://github.com/TravelMapping/DataProcessing/issues/205
The region of an edge is that assigned to its canonical segment, which is that passed to the HGEdge constructor, which is the first segment on a concurrency list for concurrent segments.
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Re: Project Statistics
« Reply #162 on: May 22, 2019, 01:36:41 pm »
For our graphs with at least one traveled segment, here's what we have.  Possibly the most surprising to me is that, given the size of the MD state highway system, that every segment in the state has been traveled by at least 4 TM users.

GraphLeast-traveled edgeMost-traveled edge
DC-region-traveled.tmg13123
naples25-area-traveled.tmg970
siena25-area-traveled.tmg798
chicago25-area-traveled.tmg6126
nyc20-area-traveled.tmg5128
mhc25-area-traveled.tmg582
dc20-area-traveled.tmg4137
MD-region-traveled.tmg4135
baltimore25-area-traveled.tmg4135
siena50-area-traveled.tmg498
MAF-region-traveled.tmg45
NJ-region-traveled.tmg3132
NY-region-traveled.tmg3110
ubuffalo50-area-traveled.tmg3106
kc20-area-traveled.tmg3102
MS-region-traveled.tmg382
DE-region-traveled.tmg2138
usai-system-traveled.tmg2138
OH-region-traveled.tmg2118
IN-region-traveled.tmg2114
CT-region-traveled.tmg2112
WI-region-traveled.tmg2103
RI-region-traveled.tmg2102
siena100-area-traveled.tmg2101
MA-region-traveled.tmg2100
NH-region-traveled.tmg298
boston20-area-traveled.tmg297
IA-region-traveled.tmg296
sfbay50-area-traveled.tmg289
MI-region-traveled.tmg288
MEX-QROO-region-traveled.tmg25
MEX-YUC-region-traveled.tmg25
MEX-BCS-region-traveled.tmg22
VA-region-traveled.tmg1137
IL-region-traveled.tmg1126
stlouis25-area-traveled.tmg1122
muhlenberg25-area-traveled.tmg1100
seattle25-area-traveled.tmg196
HI-region-traveled.tmg136
cantch-system-traveled.tmg135
innsbruck25-area-traveled.tmg120
LIE-region-traveled.tmg19
DEU-BE-region-traveled.tmg18
MLT-region-traveled.tmg17
MEX-BC-region-traveled.tmg16
ABW-region-traveled.tmg14
ESP-IB-region-traveled.tmg13
NT-region-traveled.tmg13
MEX-JAL-region-traveled.tmg12
MEX-CAM-region-traveled.tmg11
MEX-COL-region-traveled.tmg11
MEX-TAB-region-traveled.tmg11
NA-continent-traveled.tmg0138
USA-country-traveled.tmg0138
USA-national-traveled.tmg0138
tm-master-traveled.tmg0138
usaus-system-traveled.tmg0136
GA-region-traveled.tmg0127
TN-region-traveled.tmg0123
PA-region-traveled.tmg0122
FL-region-traveled.tmg0120
SC-region-traveled.tmg0112
USA-newengland-traveled.tmg0112
MO-region-traveled.tmg0111
NC-region-traveled.tmg0110
KY-region-traveled.tmg0108
WV-region-traveled.tmg0107
CO-region-traveled.tmg0103
AR-region-traveled.tmg099
ME-region-traveled.tmg097
WA-region-traveled.tmg096
omaha30-area-traveled.tmg096
NE-region-traveled.tmg092
grandisland50-area-traveled.tmg092
NV-region-traveled.tmg091
SD-region-traveled.tmg091
CA-region-traveled.tmg089
LA-region-traveled.tmg089
MN-region-traveled.tmg088
AL-region-traveled.tmg086
CAN-country-traveled.tmg086
ON-region-traveled.tmg086
UT-region-traveled.tmg085
KS-region-traveled.tmg084
la125-area-traveled.tmg081
OK-region-traveled.tmg080
AZ-region-traveled.tmg077
WY-region-traveled.tmg076
TX-region-traveled.tmg075
VT-region-traveled.tmg075
OR-region-traveled.tmg073
ND-region-traveled.tmg072
NM-region-traveled.tmg071
albuquerque50-area-traveled.tmg071
MT-region-traveled.tmg067
austin25-area-traveled.tmg066
ID-region-traveled.tmg064
QC-region-traveled.tmg047
montreal25-area-traveled.tmg047
OCE-continent-traveled.tmg036
BC-region-traveled.tmg033
wolfcreek50-area-traveled.tmg025
ENG-region-traveled.tmg023
EUR-continent-traveled.tmg023
EUR-freeways-traveled.tmg023
GBR-country-traveled.tmg023
british-isles-traveled.tmg023
london25-area-traveled.tmg023
AB-region-traveled.tmg021
AK-region-traveled.tmg021
CAN-maritimes-traveled.tmg021
NB-region-traveled.tmg021
eure-system-traveled.tmg021
AUT-region-traveled.tmg020
DEU-BY-region-traveled.tmg019
DEU-country-traveled.tmg019
FRA-country-traveled.tmg019
FRA-region-traveled.tmg019
BEL-region-traveled.tmg018
CHE-region-traveled.tmg018
DEU-HE-region-traveled.tmg018
DEU-BW-region-traveled.tmg017
DEU-RP-region-traveled.tmg017
ITA-region-traveled.tmg017
NS-region-traveled.tmg017
PE-region-traveled.tmg017
LUX-region-traveled.tmg016
DEU-NW-region-traveled.tmg015
PR-region-traveled.tmg015
west-indies-traveled.tmg015
NLD-country-traveled.tmg014
NLD-region-traveled.tmg014
CZE-region-traveled.tmg013
MB-region-traveled.tmg012
SVN-region-traveled.tmg012
DEU-SL-region-traveled.tmg011
DNK-country-traveled.tmg011
DNK-region-traveled.tmg011
ISL-region-traveled.tmg011
SVK-region-traveled.tmg011
copenhagen25-area-traveled.tmg011
DEU-NI-region-traveled.tmg010
DEU-SN-region-traveled.tmg010
DEU-ST-region-traveled.tmg010
ESP-AN-region-traveled.tmg010
ESP-country-traveled.tmg010
HRV-region-traveled.tmg010
HUN-region-traveled.tmg010
IRL-region-traveled.tmg010
SK-region-traveled.tmg010
WLS-region-traveled.tmg010
DEU-TH-region-traveled.tmg09
POL-region-traveled.tmg09
PRT-region-traveled.tmg09
SCT-region-traveled.tmg09
SWE-region-traveled.tmg09
DEU-BB-region-traveled.tmg08
DEU-HH-region-traveled.tmg08
ESP-CT-region-traveled.tmg08
NIR-region-traveled.tmg08
NOR-region-traveled.tmg08
DEU-HB-region-traveled.tmg07
ESP-AR-region-traveled.tmg07
NL-region-traveled.tmg07
YT-region-traveled.tmg07
AND-region-traveled.tmg06
DEU-MV-region-traveled.tmg06
DEU-SH-region-traveled.tmg06
ESP-MD-region-traveled.tmg06
ESP-PV-region-traveled.tmg06
ESP-VC-region-traveled.tmg06
MEX-country-traveled.tmg06
MNE-region-traveled.tmg06
SRB-region-traveled.tmg06
VI-region-traveled.tmg06
BIH-region-traveled.tmg05
ESP-CL-region-traveled.tmg05
ESP-CM-region-traveled.tmg05
ESP-EX-region-traveled.tmg05
FIN-country-traveled.tmg05
FIN-region-traveled.tmg05
LTU-region-traveled.tmg05
LVA-region-traveled.tmg05
ASI-continent-traveled.tmg04
BGR-region-traveled.tmg04
BLZ-region-traveled.tmg04
ESP-CB-region-traveled.tmg04
ESP-MC-region-traveled.tmg04
ESP-NC-region-traveled.tmg04
EST-region-traveled.tmg04
GRC-region-traveled.tmg04
ISR-region-traveled.tmg04
MKD-region-traveled.tmg04
ROU-region-traveled.tmg04
AFR-continent-traveled.tmg03
AUS-NSW-region-traveled.tmg03
AUS-QLD-region-traveled.tmg03
AUS-country-traveled.tmg03
BRB-region-traveled.tmg03
ESP-AS-region-traveled.tmg03
ESP-GA-region-traveled.tmg03
ESP-RI-region-traveled.tmg03
GU-region-traveled.tmg03
MAR-region-traveled.tmg03
PHL-region-traveled.tmg03
PSE-region-traveled.tmg03
ALB-region-traveled.tmg02
AUS-NT-region-traveled.tmg02
CHN-BJ-region-traveled.tmg02
CHN-country-traveled.tmg02
ESP-CN-region-traveled.tmg02
FRO-region-traveled.tmg02
GLP-region-traveled.tmg02
HKG-region-traveled.tmg02
KOR-region-traveled.tmg02
MEX-EMEX-region-traveled.tmg02
MEX-GTO-region-traveled.tmg02
MEX-NAY-region-traveled.tmg02
NZL-region-traveled.tmg02
RKS-region-traveled.tmg02
RUS-region-traveled.tmg02
SGP-region-traveled.tmg02
SPM-region-traveled.tmg02
THA-region-traveled.tmg02
TUR-region-traveled.tmg02
TWN-region-traveled.tmg02
ARE-region-traveled.tmg01
AS-region-traveled.tmg01
AUS-ACT-region-traveled.tmg01
AUS-SA-region-traveled.tmg01
AUS-VIC-region-traveled.tmg01
AUS-WA-region-traveled.tmg01
AZE-region-traveled.tmg01
BGD-region-traveled.tmg01
BHR-region-traveled.tmg01
BLR-region-traveled.tmg01
BWA-region-traveled.tmg01
CHN-GD-region-traveled.tmg01
CHN-HA-region-traveled.tmg01
CHN-HE-region-traveled.tmg01
CHN-SH-region-traveled.tmg01
CHN-YN-region-traveled.tmg01
CYM-region-traveled.tmg01
CYP-region-traveled.tmg01
EGY-region-traveled.tmg01
GEO-region-traveled.tmg01
IDN-region-traveled.tmg01
IMN-region-traveled.tmg01
IND-MH-region-traveled.tmg01
IND-country-traveled.tmg01
JAM-region-traveled.tmg01
JEY-region-traveled.tmg01
JOR-region-traveled.tmg01
JPN-region-traveled.tmg01
KAZ-region-traveled.tmg01
KGZ-region-traveled.tmg01
KHM-region-traveled.tmg01
MDA-region-traveled.tmg01
MEX-CHIH-region-traveled.tmg01
MEX-DF-region-traveled.tmg01
MEX-HGO-region-traveled.tmg01
MEX-MICH-region-traveled.tmg01
MEX-PUE-region-traveled.tmg01
MEX-QRO-region-traveled.tmg01
MEX-SON-region-traveled.tmg01
MEX-TLAX-region-traveled.tmg01
MEX-VER-region-traveled.tmg01
MTQ-region-traveled.tmg01
MYS-region-traveled.tmg01
NAM-region-traveled.tmg01
NPL-region-traveled.tmg01
PYF-region-traveled.tmg01
QAT-region-traveled.tmg01
TTO-region-traveled.tmg01
UKR-country-traveled.tmg01
UKR-region-traveled.tmg01
UZB-region-traveled.tmg01
VNM-region-traveled.tmg01
ZAF-region-traveled.tmg01
ZMB-region-traveled.tmg01
ZWE-region-traveled.tmg01
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Re: Project Statistics
« Reply #163 on: May 22, 2019, 02:17:40 pm »
Quote from: Jim on May 22, 2019, 06:57:15 am
Related to that, if I can get a test DB to be more usable, can those test systems be moved out of the production DB?
No! There's no point hiding them when it's easier to make them go live, which I hope to do by the end of the month.
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Re: Project Statistics
« Reply #164 on: May 22, 2019, 02:20:24 pm »
Quote from: si404 on May 22, 2019, 02:17:40 pm
Quote from: Jim on May 22, 2019, 06:57:15 am
Related to that, if I can get a test DB to be more usable, can those test systems be moved out of the production DB?
No! There's no point hiding them when it's easier to make them go live, which I hope to do by the end of the month.

Sounds like a good plan to me, thanks.
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