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Updates to Highway Data / NC: NC 109 BUS (Troy) Deletion
« Last post by Markkos1992 on November 09, 2024, 10:30:06 am »
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?msg=2950519

So all those minor revisions a few months ago may have sort of been for nothing.
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In-progress Highway Systems & Work / Re: gbrrr: United Kingdom Ring Roads
« Last post by si404 on November 09, 2024, 05:44:27 am »
If they exist in the field, yeah -- so be it. Chin up & accept it, and take reasonable steps to accommodate it if needed. The assumption here is, plotting a 2nd route is not "reasonable steps".
IMO it's better to keep half-concurrencies out of the data -- more on this below.
I view breaking a load of concurrencies and having the route mapped differently to the underlying routes to be far more unreasonable than two routes (fully understanding how unreasonable that is - it was not a decision I took lightly).
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Even better example.
Ooh, yes. Very good example.
Yes, it is a very good example of a real world thing messing with our ideal mapping that took an age to wrangle out a solution, that solution is best of a bad situation, but still sub-optimal and not something that would necessarily translate to similar situations.

I don't see how this situation isn't likewise in need of a similarly bespoke sub-optimal solution that wouldn't necessarily translate to other situations.
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In-progress Railway Systems & Work / Re: Canada and USA Systems Master Thread
« Last post by Duke87 on November 08, 2024, 09:54:13 pm »
How are we handling heritage streetcar lines that are integrated into a light rail system? usamuni currently includes the F, but usamts does not include the Silver Line.

Oh man and that thing even uses the same tracks as the other MTS lines.

It should be included in usamts, this was an oversight. Though as it is 100% concurrent with other lines, costs no one any mileage in its absence.

Bump

https://github.com/TravelMapping/RailwayData/pull/224

Added the new Copper Line too. Not any new trackage, replaces what used to be the end of the Green and Orange Lines, but it is a service pattern change that happened just over a month ago.
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Solved Highway data updates / Re: LA: Waypoints
« Last post by mapcat on November 08, 2024, 08:42:14 pm »
Thanks. Changes made to LA 77, LA 378, LA 379, LA 496, and LA 993. https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/7896
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Updates to Highway Data / Re: TX: TxDOT Highway Designations changes (shapefiles)
« Last post by yakra on November 08, 2024, 10:56:06 am »
Diffs
from previous versions.
Going forward, take care of diffs & new entries @ same time.

Hashing .shp record contents isn't viable, as geometry & projection keep changing. Keep diffing dumps of of the DSPN_DSCR field.
Code: [Select]
for r in {0..1113}; do ./DBFquery ~/gis/data/tx/TxDOT_Highway_Designations-2024-06-09/Highway_Designations.dbf $r | grep dspn_dscr; done > 2024-06-09.log
diff <(cut -f4 2022-10-14.log | sed 's~ *$~~') <(cut -f4 2024-06-09.log | sed 's~ *$~~')


Date         #rec   DBF field   Disposition

2019-03-26    995   DSPN_DSCR   1st version downloaded.
2020-04-28   1053   DSPN_DSCR   31 descriptions changed. Take a closer look.
2020-08-19   1057   DSPN_DSCR   No diffs to existing. 4 new, added to watchlist, not post.
2021-04-28   1070   DSPN_DSCR   Four shuffled around, 13 new.
2021-08-13   1077   DSPN_DSCR   No diffs to existing. 7 new.
2022-02-07   1077   DSPN_DSCR   Reply #8
2022-10-14   1088   dspn_dscr   No diffs to existing. 11 new.
2024-06-09   1114   dspn_dscr   No diffs to existing. 26 new.


ToDo:
New program to rip shapefiles by record number



2024-06-09
1114 total records

Rec#    dspn_dscr / mo_nbr

1089    Designate US 59 as BU 59-H
        Diboll
1090    ....Designate US 59 along a new location
        Diboll
1091    202399
        TX84 (Hachar-Reuthinger Rd)
1092    [NULL]
        Power St offramp from old Harbor Bridge
1093    202299
        TX FM148 FM3039 US175
1094    202299
        FM148 bypass to US175 @ Cartwright Ranch Pkwy
1095    202299
        FM148 from bypass to FM3039
1096    202299
        US175 / FM148 overlap
1097    Extend SH 68 on New Location
        From E end of FM3072, NE & N to I-2 between 152 & 153
1098    Designate SS 81 on New Location
        From elbow of TX68 SE to FM493
1099    Extend SH 68 Concurrent with FM 3072
        weirdly enough http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=26.120162&lon=-98.173467
1100    Designate FM 2001 on new location
        White Wing Trl E of I-35 | GMSV | #7895
1101    Designate FM 2001 on new location
        CR133 diagonal to CR212
1102    Designate FM 2001 on new location
        S from S Quails Run, along CR126 Rohde Rd, SW around built-up area to TX21
1103    Designate FM 2001 on new location
        SW from TX21 to existing alignment @ power line ROW
1104    Designate SH 104 on new location
        2nd S Padre Island causeway
1105    Designate SH 104 on Location of Buena Vista Dr
        S of FM106
1106    202310
        US190BusRog
1107    202310
        Rogers bypass
1108    Redesignate segment of FM 106 as SH 104
1109    Redesignate as FM Spur 2001
        bypassed by record 1100
1110    Redesignate as FM Spur 2001-A
        bypassed by record 1101
1111    Redesignate as FM Spur 2001-B
        bypassed by record 1102 N of TX21
1112    Redesignate as FM Spur 2001-C
        S of TX21 to power line ROW (bypassed by 1103)
1113    Remove FM 2001 concurrency from SH 21
1114    Designate RM 967 as RM Spur 967
        RobLigBlvd. Not actually RM967.
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Updates to Highway Data / Re: WV: Point Concerns from June 2023-May 2024 Trips
« Last post by rickmastfan67 on November 08, 2024, 01:18:04 am »
US 119:  (from north to south)
1.  CR119/14>-CR119/11
2.  Consider replacing the shaping point north of CR83 with a visible point at CR119/16.
3.  Consider replacing shaping points with visible points throughout route.
4.  I would replace LatSt with MainSt_W in Grafton because the latter has a signal.
5.  BeeSt>-BeeSt_S
6.  CR2/2>-CR22 (also affects US 250)
7.  I am unsure if VinHilRd is correct.  I think it should be CR60 or CR250/60.
8.  CamChuRd>-ChuRd (also affects US 33)
9.  FinCrkRd>-VadRd or CR11 (also affects US 33)
10.  CedCrk>-CedCrkRd (also affects US 33)
11.  BFGooDr>-MusWay or CR119/23 (also affects US 33)
12.  GanHarRd>-HarRd
13.  PocRiv>-RivRd or CR34
14.  RobRun>-RobRunRd
15.  JulyRun>-JulyRunRd
16.  HurCrkRd>-AmmaRd or CR23
17.  I am unsure SycSt is at a road.

1. Fixed.
2. Went with 'KelRd', as I already had a CR119/16 in a separate area.
3. I try to due to better GSV now whenever possible if it's reasonable.
4. Done.
5. Changed.
6. Went with 'HacCreRd' instead for both, as there's already a 'CR22' in US-119's file.
7. Wrong route.  No such label in US-119.  This should have been in US-250's section.  Either way, I'll go with 'CR250/60' in US-250's file till when/if ever, they post signage at that intersection. It's wild, as normally WVDOH is very good at signing roads like this.
8. Fixed in both.
9. Fixed in both.
10. Went with 'CR17' instead in both.
11. Chose 'CR119/23' for both.
12. Fixed.
13. Went with 'CR34'.
14. Fixed.
15. Looks like it's more like a driveway if anything, and not a real road, since there's no signage there.  Demoting to a shaping point since not in-use.
16. 'AmmaRd' since there's already another 'CR23' in the file.
17. Is is.  lol.  There's a streetblade there.

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https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/7894
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Updates to Highway Data / NC: US-421 exit number update
« Last post by rickmastfan67 on November 07, 2024, 06:16:45 pm »
JulAirRd -> 187
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Other Discussion / Re: New Travels and Stats Discussion
« Last post by Markkos1992 on November 07, 2024, 01:17:21 pm »
My trip report for the Nashville trip in September can be accessed here.

10/5/2024 Mostly PA Trip

I started the morning taking the expected US 322 WB to I-99 SB/US 220 SB to US 219 NB to US 422 WB to PA 488 west of Butler.  I clinched PA 488 by taking it to PA 65/PA 288 in Ellwood City (hi Arthur!!), and then clinched PA 351 by taking it west into Ohio, and clinched OH 617 by taking it west to OH 165.  I then took OH 165 WB to OH 626 NB (over I-76/Ohio Turnpike with OH 164) to OH 7 where I stopped at the nearby Sheetz.  Due to a closure on Western Reserve Road, I technically had to take OH 7 SB to turn around and head back north, but this was one of those times that I wished that I just turned left illegally onto OH 7 NB instead with it still being dark on a Saturday Morning.  I continued north on OH 7 to Youngstown towards I-680 NB ultimately taking I-680 NB to OH 193 NB to US 422 WB.  I would take US 422 WB to OH 304 EB through Hubbard back into PA via PA 318.

Once I got to I-376 in West Middlesex, I would loop around that area a bit to view the area with the I-376/PA 318 interchange recently being reopened after the bridge strike last year that closed the bridge for many months.  I would then take PA 318 EB to Mercer and then take US 62 SB back to Hermitage with one last trip to the I-80/I-376 interchange to get photos that were not as sun-glared as earlier.  I would then reclinch PA 760 by taking it to Downtown Sharon, do a brief US 62 BUS/Connelly Blvd/Water St loop, and head north to PA 846 via PA 718.  I clinched PA 846 by taking it to PA 18 in Greenville where I would pick up PA 358 EB and take it to Sandy Lake with a PA 173/PA 965 loop to close the gap in US 62 that had recently reopened.  I then took US 62 NB to Franklin where I was detoured onto local side streets due to an event, but I really should have taken US 322 WB to PA 417 NB to Front St to get back to US 62/PA 8 at the Sheetz I would stop at.

After the Sheetz stop, I would take US 62 NB all the way to Warren completing my clinch of US 62 in PA and also completing all US Route mileage for me in PA.  In regard to US 62, I now have it fully clinched north of OH 173 and Atlantic Blvd in Alliance, OH.  I did detour in Warren some via US 6, Crescent Park, Pennsylvania Ave, and Market St noticing that US 6 BUS may have been realigned as a result of the recent roundabout project at the Pennsylvania Ave/Market St intersection.  I picked up US 62 NB again and took it to NY 60 south of Jamestown, and took NY 60 NB through Jamestown to I-86/NY 17.  I took I-86 WB past the bridge construction at Chautauqua Lake to turn around at NY 394, and then went east on I-86 to NY 280.  I took NY 280 south into PA and took PA 346 EB to PA 321 SB.  I clinched PA 321 by taking it south to US 219 in Wilcox.  From there, it was mostly the simple US 219 SB to PA 153 SB to US 322 EB drive back to Harrisburg.  However, I dodged some of the congestion on US 322 EB leaving Boalsburg after the Penn State game by taking Warner Blvd to PA 45 EB to PA 144 SB reentering US 322 at Potter's Mill Gap.

Clinched:  PA 488, PA 351, OH 617, OH 626, OH 304, PA 318, US 62 (PA), PA 846, PA 321

New Mileage: PA 168, OH 170, OH 165, OH 164, OH 7, PA 18, PA 358, NY 60, I-86 (NY), NY 17

10/12/2024-10/14/2024 Weekend Trip

I went to my parents' house for the weekend since I had Monday off for the holiday that I guess will change names again in two weeks.  Minus another look for WV 243 signage, I just went the normal I-81 SB to US 17 SB to I-95 SB on Friday.

On Saturday my mom and I did another NC trip to eat at Smithfield's Chicken-N-BBQ along with clinching the new section of NC 540 and the newly signed I-42. 

We started just after 5 AM taking US 460 WB from Petersburg to US 29 SB in Lynchburg.  We continued on US 29 south to Chatham where we took US 29 BUS SB to VA 57 WB to VA 41 SB clinching VA 41 once we got to US 29 BUS in Danville. After a loop to clinch Piedmont Drive and a Sheetz stop on US 58 BUS, we went south on VA 86 (reclinching VA 398 along the way) into NC taking NC 86 SB to Hillsborough completing the clinch when we got to NC 57.  We took NC 86 SB to I-85 NB to NC 147 SB to I-885 SB to NC 885 SB to NC 540 EB completing the new section when we got to I-40 in Garner.  We then took I-40 EB to NC 210 (Exit 319) turned around taking I-40 WB to Person St/Hammond Rd (Exit 299) and turned around again onto I-40 EB in order to see the completed widening project from I-87/I-440 (Exit 301) to NC 42/Cleveland Rd (Exits 312A-B).  We got off at Cleveland Rd taking it north to NC 42 EB crossing I-40 at the new Diverging Diamond Interchange to go to the Smithfield's Chicken-N-BBQ on the east side of the interchange.

From there, we took I-40 WB to NC 540 WB turning around at NC 50 to take US 70 (Future I-42) EB (and US 70 BYP EB in Selma) to Goldsboro, taking the I-42 EB Goldsboro Bypass, and then continuing east on US 70 to NC 148 EB (clinching it) to NC 11 NB north of Kinston.  We stayed on NC 11 NB through Greenville (where we saw at least one Wawa being built) and stayed on it past the long NC 42 concurrency all the way to its northern end along US 258 at US 158 BUS in Murfreesboro (not to be confused with the one in TN covered on the Nashville trip).  From there I took US 258 NB and US 258 BUS NB into Franklin, VA, (not TN or PA), and took College Drive past Armory Drive to clarify my clinch of VA 379.  I went back to US 258 NB and took Pretlow St/Rd (SR 714 in Southampton County) to VA 189 NB driving the new bridge over the Blackwater River  (replacing the former truss) back to US 258 NB to US 460 WB in Windsor back towards my parents' house.  (and US 258 should really be rerouted onto VA 189 now, but I digress)

Clinched: VA 41, NC/VA 86, VA 398 (reclinch), NC 540, I-42 (Clayton, NC) (reclinch), NC 148, VA 379 (reclinch)

New Mileage: US 70 (NC), NC 11, NC 903, US 13 (NC), NC 42

On October 14, I basically did a bunch of things with relatively little clinching.  I took I-295 NB to I-95 NB to SR 606 WB in Thornburg to US 1 NB and looped around the Cosner Corners area to view the new four-lane bridge over I-95.  From there I took I-95 NB to Northern Virginia and took I-395 NB to VA 120 NB to drive the new alignment of Columbia Pike (still VA 244 in Travel Mapping and on signage) backtracking to I-395 via VA 27 and the George Washington Memorial Pkwy.  I took I-395 NB into DC and I-695 EB to DC 295 NB (reclinching it and usadc  ;D).  Once in Maryland, I took MD 201 NB to MD 410 WB past MD 500 (the reason for MD 500 being mentioned will be revealed at a later date) to MD 212 NB to Cherry Hill Rd/Randolph Rd to MD 650 NB to Norwood Rd to MD 182 NB to MD 108 WB to MD 97 NB.  I went to Brookeville along MD 97 to clinch what is now MD 97 BUS (Brookeville) though currently the only signs are the old MD 97 shields at the turn at High St/Market St intersection.

From there, I took MD 97 NB to I-70 EB to I-695 Inner through congestion and crashes west of Towson to I-95 NB to see the Express Lanes construction north of MD 43.  I continued on I-95 NB all the way to MD 279 NB (so no Newark toll), stopped at the Wawa at the MD 277/MD 279 intersection, and took MD 279 NB into DE to again clinch DE 279 and took DE 896 NB into Newark seeing this FYA before heading into PA.  I left PA 896 NB (after driving by 896 Pie) at PA 841 taking it north to PA 41.  I turned onto PA 41 NB taking it to PA 926 and stopped for a bit to tour the newly opened roundabout at the PA 41/PA 926 intersection.  From there I continued north on PA 41 NB to US 30 WB in Gap, and changed things up a bit this time by taking PA 772 WB from there through Intercourse to Lititz.  In Lititz I decided to take PA 501 NB to Lincoln Ave to drive the Doe Run Rd corridor between Lititz and Manheim because it was part of a proposed rerouting of PA 772.  Once in Manheim I picked up PA 772 WB again and took PA 283 WB to Toll House Rd south to PA 230 WB into Middletown so that I could stop by the new Wawa (first Wawa in the Harrisburg area) by the Harrisburg Int'l Airport.  I then took the Airport Connector Road to PA 283 WB to I-283 NB back to Harrisburg from there.


10-26-2024 PA Trip

I started the day by doing the usual US 22 WB/US 322 WB to US 11 NB/US 15 NB to PA 147 NB to I-180 WB to PA 405 NB to US 220 NB to Dushore where I took PA 87 NB to PA 187 NB to Wyalusing-New Albany Rd to US 6 EB.  I took US 6 EB to Laceyville where I picked up PA 367 NB clinching it when I got to PA 267; however, I looped to clinch PA 367 TRUCK, which I am not planning to add to Travel Mapping as the weight-restricted bridge that created it will be replaced fairly soon.  I then took PA 267 NB to PA 706 EB taking it past the PA 29/PA 167 concurrency all the way east to US 11 to complete the clinch of PA 706 that I worked on west of PA 267 back in September.  I then took US 11 NB to New Milford clinching PA 492 and PA 848 before finally taking PA 547 south to US 11 again in Kingsley.  After turning onto US 11 SB, I almost immediately turn left again on PA 106 EB clinching it when I finally got to Carbondale.  I then took US 6 BUS WB to PA 107 WB after a Sheetz stop at the US 6 BUS/Meredith St intersection.  I then took PA 107 WB to PA 247 SB to PA 438 WB to PA 524 WB (turning around at PA 407) to PA 347 SB.  (I honestly do not understand why PA 347 does not continue to PA 438, but PA 524 does...) I took PA 347 SB to I-81 SB/US 6 EB in Dunmore completing the clinch of that route since I did it west of I-81 in July 2020 on the way to the Utica Meet.  I immediately exited onto I-84 EB/I-380 SB and then exited via the new right-hand exit onto PA 435 SB and clinched PA 435 by staying on it all the way to PA 507 by I-380 (Exit 13).

I then took PA 507 NB to PA 447 SB (while on the PA 191/PA 507 concurrency) and clinched PA 447 when I got to PA 191 north of Stroudsburg.  I then took PA 191 SB to Stroudsburg, and took US 209 BUS SB to US 209 SB to PA 33 NB (via turning around at the Snydersville interchange).  I photographed the PA 33/PA 611 intersection and even took a selfie with the error US 33/US 611 shields in the parking lot of a closed bank (someone drove by after using the ATM, but thankfully we saw each other and did not impede each other).  From there, I took PA 33 SB to I-78 WB to I-81 SB back to Harrisburg (stopping for some Wawa at the I-78/PA 61 interchange and seeing a U-Haul in the median of I-81 between I-78 and PA 934).  Note that the I-78 Schuylkill River Bridge project looks like it will be complete soon.

Clinched:  PA 367, PA 706, PA 492, PA 547, PA 848, PA 106, PA 524, PA 347, PA 435, PA 447

New Mileage: PA 167, PA 374, PA 247, PA 690


I also went on a Metrotrails hike at the Spruce Run Reservoir in Clinton, NJ, on November 2nd, but that was just me redriving I-78, US 22, and NJ 31.
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Other Discussion / Re: Idea for an unranked user showing all limited access routes
« Last post by Duke87 on November 07, 2024, 12:39:36 pm »
I feel like unresolvable arguments about what exactly does or doesn't count as a "limited access route" are going to derail the viability of this.

Consider also that there are limited access routes not currently in TM because they didn't make the cut for a "select" freeway system.
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