usaal: Alabama State Routes

[froggie]

I've submitted the initial (incomplete) batch of Alabama state routes via a pull request for review as an "in development" system.  Hope I got everything right for that.

This initial push covers from AL 5 to AL 113 and includes any bannered routes in that range (such as TRUCK AL 47 or BUSINESS AL 21).  As noted upthread, I have omitted routes that are not signed, mostly because they are fully concurrent with a U.S. route.

[clong]

Thanks for the work.

I'm starting to go thru my traveled routes. I noticed on AL47TrkMon that the endpoints were both labeled AL47_S.

[froggie]

Running into a minor quandary with AL 285.  This route follows the former southern end of AL 165 into Lakepoint Resort State Park.  According to maps (both the Barbour County map and ALDOT's Milepost map), AL 285 ends 1.29 miles south of AL 165...basically at the edge of what ALDOT maps show as the state park boundary.

However, AL 285 is signposted at US 431.  There is no reassurance shield on the route itself there, but there are trailblazers on 431.

Between both June 2014 GMSV and other mapping data, I am unable to locate the exact southern end of AL 285 per ALDOT's data.

So I've decided (unless someone convinces me otherwise) to end AL 285 at US 431.

[froggie]

Need verification on AL 300 southwest of Tuscaloosa.  It runs from US 11/43 to the Fosters interchange on I-20/59 (Exit 62).  GMSV at US 11/43 and along the road is from before the designation, and exit signage hadn't been updated yet on I-20/59 when GMSV went through there.

(EDIT) Same question with AL 301 east of Oxford, which follows old US 431 between I-20 and US 78 before US 431 was rerouted onto I-20 and the Anniston Eastern Bypass.  Much of the GMSV is too old, and the eastbound I-20 exit signage is blocked on this year's GMSV by a semi.

[neroute2]

(EDIT) Same question with AL 301 east of Oxford, which follows old US 431 between I-20 and US 78 before US 431 was rerouted onto I-20 and the Anniston Eastern Bypass.  Much of the GMSV is too old, and the eastbound I-20 exit signage is blocked on this year's GMSV by a semi.

SR 301 is signed on the surface: https://www.google.com/maps/@33.6176932,-85.7228001,3a,15y,7.27h,93.32t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s-OoHlg5ggSUQjd3sXOzvnw!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3D-OoHlg5ggSUQjd3sXOzvnw%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D181.7434%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656

[rlee]

Need verification on AL 300 southwest of Tuscaloosa.  It runs from US 11/43 to the Fosters interchange on I-20/59 (Exit 62).  GMSV at US 11/43 and along the road is from before the designation, and exit signage hadn't been updated yet on I-20/59 when GMSV went through there.

(EDIT) Same question with AL 301 east of Oxford, which follows old US 431 between I-20 and US 78 before US 431 was rerouted onto I-20 and the Anniston Eastern Bypass.  Much of the GMSV is too old, and the eastbound I-20 exit signage is blocked on this year's GMSV by a semi.

AL 301 wasn't on the exit signage on I-20 back in March when I took these photos, but it is well signed on both ends.

[froggie]

Submitted a pull request to add the rest of the Alabama state routes.  Once that's in, and unless I'm missing something, the system should be ready for preview.

I added AL 301 given rlee's photos, but I did not include AL 300 as I have no way yet to verify if it's signed.

[Jim]

I've made a few fixes and it looks like usaal will be in preview when the site update in progress runs to completion.

[froggie]

There's a problem with the routes that are also in usansf, especially AL 255 which was extended and I included the extension in the usaal version.  How to fix?

[mapcat]

See my message in the AL 255 topic.

[cl94]

A couple suggestions for AL 281:
- Possibly change "BunLoop" to "CheSP" or "CheStaPk" (Cheaha State Park)? Precedent elsewhere is to use state/national parks as waypoints even if the entrance road has a name (and the name here certainly isn't signed in the field).
- The CR 131 intersection is signed "TO US 431" and, from my drive on it in March, CR 131 is signed as "TO US 431" and "TO AL 281". Possibly change this point to US431 or ToUS431 (with a similar change on US 431)?

[si404]

There's a problem with the routes that are also in usansf, especially AL 255 which was extended and I included the extension in the usaal version.  How to fix?

For routes that are in eursf that are also in a tier 5 system, I've used x banners (or put an x in the number - cf Spanish ones, though I'm going to change that) on the tier 5 routes (eg POL DW902 in poldw vs the eursf version), when the tier 5 system is activated, I'll remove the route from eursf, and have the x-suffixed version as an AltName if necessary.

It doesn't matter much if they are different lengths, though arguably you'd want them concurrent. I think the GW Parkway question is literally unique - certainly it won't be an issue here.

[froggie]

A couple suggestions for AL 281:
- Possibly change "BunLoop" to "CheSP" or "CheStaPk" (Cheaha State Park)? Precedent elsewhere is to use state/national parks as waypoints even if the entrance road has a name (and the name here certainly isn't signed in the field).

Agreed.  I'll change it to "CheStaPark" this evening (standard is to spell out the word if it has 4 letters...i.e. Park).

- The CR 131 intersection is signed "TO US 431" and, from my drive on it in March, CR 131 is signed as "TO US 431" and "TO AL 281". Possibly change this point to US431 or ToUS431 (with a similar change on US 431)?

Here, the precedent is to use the route number or road name of the connector if one exists.  So in this case, since the connecting road is CR 131 (and was signed as such at one point), I'm leaving it as CR131.

[oscar]

A couple suggestions for AL 281:
- Possibly change "BunLoop" to "CheSP" or "CheStaPk" (Cheaha State Park)? Precedent elsewhere is to use state/national parks as waypoints even if the entrance road has a name (and the name here certainly isn't signed in the field).

Agreed.  I'll change it to "CheStaPark" this evening (standard is to spell out the word if it has 4 letters...i.e. Park).

"SP" is a widely-used abbreviation for "State Park".

[froggie]

I prefer writing it out.

BTW, for you Oscar, I happened to notice that you submitted a list update and labeled it as including AL routes.  Saw that you had included some comments including a few point requests:

- I included the AL 13 point but had to label it "CR24_Wal" as I also have a County Rd 24 point in the Florence area.
- I also included the CR728 point on the AL 73 list.
- Boll Weevil Circle around Enterprise is indeed AL 192, but AL 192 is unsigned so for that reason is not included.