frad/fram: France Routes Départementales / Routes Métropolitaines

[michih]

We would just need to update it once again before the split is going live and copy the latest user list file entries to the forum so that each traveler can catch his lines (to preserve data long-term because some user do rarely check our site).

Rather than add all that text to the forum, maybe just keep the new .lists on the server, and keep a link in the forum?

I'd prefer copying to the forum (only 43 travelers). Files might be deleted or moved to a different directory...

[michih]

All my figures are fine now except of the total eure mileage:
eurer: 8525.33mi
eure in FRA: 8421.43mi (copied from my log file)

Have I missed anything?

[si404]

FRH E25 is not counted in eure in FRA, but is (as FRA-COR E25) in eurer.

One thing I noticed by looking at http://travelmapping.net/logs/unprocessedwpts.log is that frabfc.e27 is unused. When I investigated, it seems I erroneously created a fraara.e27 file as well and put that in the .csvs. Fixed that, and the A391, which I also put in the wrong region. Not seen other, similar errors.

[michih]

Why don't you add FRH E25 to the active eure system?

[si404]

Why don't you add FRH E25 to the active eure system?

It is in there - it's just not in the region FRA (but is in the country FRA).

[michih]

Got it The different is 0.01mi now rounding error caused by different tools?

[si404]

Probably a rounding error caused by having that one extra item to add before rounding off. Certainly I didn't find any discrepancies in figures for route lengths.

[yakra]

Latest concurrency checks look good.

[michih]

@Si, since you are currently "out of order"... I guess you won't split France "soon"? Can we eliminate the "ignore test systems" for the time being to fix the incorrect stats issue on the production site*? Once you are back, we can test it on tmtest data base.

I could delete the lines if you can't.

*And fixing the graphs issue so that Jim's students can use them correct.

[si404]

That's a good idea. Thanks.

Oh and if anyone wants to start doing D roads, go ahead. Make departmental systems until we work out how we'll do the merging (maybe the abbreviation as two digit code, department name in the name field?)

[michih]

if anyone wants to start doing D roads, go ahead.

I couldn't find official route lists. Well, I don't speak French so... I wasn't really able to search... panda speaks French (and he is in France right now for vacation), I hope that he can search for lists when he's back home.

[michih]

I've started drafting routes. I couldn't find lists for Grand Est except for the one's which will merge in 2021. I've started in Île-de-France with department Yvelines (78) now. D1 to D39 are done: https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/2959

I have some issues we should clarify first:

• How do we label department borders? I'm gone with the department numbers, e.g. "78/92", but I don't think that we should go this way. Suggestions?
• There are some very short and unsigned(!) routes heading to railroad stations, e.g. D5 and D26 in Yvelines. I've not added them, see readme.
• How do we abbreviate "Boulevard" in France? "Boul" is used 3x, Bou 10x and Blvd 45X. I'm in favor of Blvd.

3x Boul:
  ..\HighwayData\hwy_data\FRA\fran\fra.n162.wpt (1 hit)
   Line 3: BoulFraMit http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=48.283578&lon=-0.615706
  ..\HighwayData\hwy_data\FRA\fran\fra.n2043.wpt (1 hit)
   Line 2: BoulPin http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=45.730577&lon=4.887671
  ..\HighwayData\hwy_data\FRA\fran\fra.n088rod.wpt (1 hit)
   Line 38: BoulMarLan http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=43.944878&lon=2.160959


10x Bou:
  ..\HighwayData\hwy_data\FRA\fran\fra.n186orl.wpt (2 hits)
   Line 2: BouMidi http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=48.753515&lon=2.374592
   Line 4: BouCirE http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=48.753473&lon=2.361460
  ..\HighwayData\hwy_data\FRA\fran\fra.n137.wpt (1 hit)
   Line 31: BouReneCas http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=47.262223&lon=-1.583362
  ..\HighwayData\hwy_data\FRA\fran\fra.n151.wpt (1 hit)
   Line 15: BouRep http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=47.090842&lon=2.393646
  ..\HighwayData\hwy_data\FRA\fran\fra.n007val.wpt (1 hit)
   Line 48: BouReneCoty http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=44.531178&lon=4.745750
  ..\HighwayData\hwy_data\FRA\fran\fra.n100.wpt (1 hit)
   Line 6: BouMidi http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=43.949265&lon=4.770791
  ..\HighwayData\hwy_data\FRA\fran\fra.n102aub.wpt (1 hit)
   Line 32: BouPas http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=44.555983&lon=4.686742
  ..\HighwayData\hwy_data\FRA\eursf\fra.d037.wpt (1 hit)
   Line 7: BouLouXI http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=47.376151&lon=0.651369
  ..\HighwayData\hwy_data\FRA\eursf\fra.tunpra.wpt (1 hit)
   Line 2: BouChaLiv http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=43.291373&lon=5.365963
  ..\HighwayData\hwy_data\FRA\frasd\done\fra.d003737.wpt (1 hit)
   Line 7: BouLouXI http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=47.376151&lon=0.651369

45x Blvd:
  ..\HighwayData\hwy_data\FRA\fran\fra.n1569.wpt (1 hit)
   Line 3: BlvdTheAub http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=43.588147&lon=4.990003
  ..\HighwayData\hwy_data\FRA\fran\fra.n149.wpt (1 hit)
   Line 16: BlvdPar http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=46.665106&lon=-0.236592
  ..\HighwayData\hwy_data\FRA\fran\fra.n012.wpt (1 hit)
   Line 37: BlvdHarNoe http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=48.520904&lon=-2.748020
  ..\HighwayData\hwy_data\FRA\fran\fra.n013.wpt (1 hit)
   Line 44: BlvdMan http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=49.653418&lon=-1.578705
  ..\HighwayData\hwy_data\FRA\fran\fra.n013neu.wpt (1 hit)
   Line 1: BlvdPer http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=48.878419&lon=2.280543
+ 40x in fraa, eure,...

@Si, Do you wanna change them?


btw: Ave is used 63x, Av is not used

[yakra]

How do we label department borders? I'm gone with the department numbers, e.g. "78/92", but I don't think that we should go this way. Suggestions?

Shouldn't we go with the same abbreviations used in .list file names, E.G. IDF/(whatever)?

[si404]

At regional boundaries sure, but each region on the mainland has multiple departments.

Three letter abbreviations so Yvl/HdS for 78/92?

[michih]

How do we label department borders? I'm gone with the department numbers, e.g. "78/92", but I don't think that we should go this way. Suggestions?

Shouldn't we go with the same abbreviations used in .list file names, E.G. IDF/(whatever)?

There are 18 regions but almost 100 departments. Île-de-France consists of 8 departements and I talk about the department borders. We distinguish the wpt files by banner field. For instance, fraidf.d000178.wpt is D1 in Yvelines department (FRA-78 code) in Île-de-France region (FRA-IDF).