SD: US 212 Business (Belle Fourche)

[the_spui_ninja]

I've been sitting on this for a while, but I'll throw it out here now.

In Belle Fourche, US 212 has a pretty well-signed business route (routing on OSM), but all the signs look like this:


This is city-maintained (like a lot of other business routes in the state), but they do a really good job signing it...

[the_spui_ninja]

To clarify (as OSM doesn't show it very well), the routing (from the east) is Old Highway 212, Elkhorn Street, 10th Street, State Street, and US 85 back to US 212.

[the_spui_ninja]

This popped up in the local paper today, so SDDOT does consider this semi-official.
http://www.sddot.com/news/Article.aspx?NewsId=20639

[michih]

@Highway63: What do you think about this?

[Highway63]

There are no signs on US 212 or 85 regarding the route. The 212/85 intersection is devoid of Business 212 signs. The intersection of 85 and State Street has "To 212 ^" but no business route signed. Only if you get on the route do you know it exists - and then, only at the turns, and with non-standard signs. I have "OldUS212Bus" at the east end indicating that I perceived it to be decommissioned.

Therefore, I would consider it an unofficial and unsigned route. I would be willing to add a StateSt point on US 85.

[the_spui_ninja]

According to the statewide map viewer (Butte County doesn't have one ) (link) the official name of the road is Business 212. This is corroborated by the one business on the road (https://smartlic.com/ and scroll to the bottom to see the address). I would just get rid of the "Old" on the point name (maybe change to something like Bus212 just to make it obvious this isn't a real route).

I would be willing to add a StateSt point on US 85.

If you're going to add a point in Belle, I would recommend National St instead, as that is where most out-of-town traffic would turn if they wanted to turn (it goes to the high school, community center/indoor swimming pool, and continues out of Belle both to the east and the west). I've turned from 85 onto State approximately once, while I can't count the number of times I've turned onto National.

[michih]

I would be willing to add a StateSt point on US 85.

If you're going to add a point in Belle, I would recommend National St instead, as that is where most out-of-town traffic would turn if they wanted to turn (it goes to the high school, community center/indoor swimming pool, and continues out of Belle both to the east and the west). I've turned from 85 onto State approximately once, while I can't count the number of times I've turned onto National.

Are you still willing to add any wp?

Should we leave the thread open for the original issue?

[Highway63]

I drove this myself this month. While there is a "Business 212" well signed, none of the shields are accurate, and there is no business route signage on 212 or 85. Therefore, I do not believe this should be added. I finally added a StaSt AND NatSt point to US 85, though.

[the_spui_ninja]

Sorry to dig this up again, but I just went to Newell today, and there was signage on US 212 EB for "Business 212". It was a little green sign right before the turn lane, which said US 212 to US 85 bear right and Business 212 stay straight (didn't get a picture). Was that there back in October? It looked pretty new to me, but I haven't been on that stretch of 212 in over 5 years.