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Highway Data Discussion => In-progress Highway Systems & Work => Topic started by: michih on May 23, 2020, 11:44:37 am
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Actual status of the systems:
frahdfd02 - Aisne Routes Départementales
frahdfd59 - Nord Routes Départementales
frahdfm59 - Métropole européenne de Lille Routes Métropolitaines
frahdfd60 - Oise Routes Départementales
frahdfd62 - Pas-de-Calais Routes Départementales
frahdfd80 - Somme Routes Départementales
Legend:
Black=not yet drafted (not in HB), Red=devel, Orange=preview, Green=active
Notes to routes:
https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/blob/master/hwy_data/FRA-HDF/frahdfd/README.md
Please report issues here!
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frahdfd02 - Aisne Routes Départementales will be in preview with the next site update. More than 600 routes for about 3,000mi.
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frahdfd60 - Oise Routes Départementales will be partially in HB as in-development system with the next site update. Mostly trunk routes (orange on OSM).
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Future M route system: https://forum.travelmapping.net/index.php?topic=2976.msg20989#msg20989
frahdfm59 - Métropole européenne de Lille Routes Métropolitaines
frahdfd59 - Nord Routes Départementales will be partially in HB as in-development system with the next site update. Mostly trunk routes (orange on OSM).
frahdfd62 - Pas-de-Calais Routes Départementales is partially in HB as in-development system. Mostly trunk routes (orange on OSM).
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frahdfm59 - Métropole européenne de Lille Routes Métropolitaines is in preview now. 139 routes for about 460mi. It is the first TM 'M route' system in France :)
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frahdfd59 - Nord Routes Départementales is in preview now. About 470 routes for more than 2,500mi.
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frahdfd62 - Pas-de-Calais Routes Départementales will be in preview with the next site update. About 680 routes for more than 3,000mi.
It fills this gap in the NW of France:
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frahdfd60 - Oise Routes Départementales will be in preview with the next site update. More than 350 routes for more than 2,000mi.
That means, all systems in HDF are in preview and ready for peer-review now :)
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That means, all systems in HDF are in preview and ready for peer-review now :)
Excellent - a second region to reach that state!
Given I'm in a 3rd lockdown to protect against a new strain that they are worried about because it spread despite locking down, I'll probably be able to finish reviewing Norway and get on to these in the several weeks stuck at home.
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Lower hanging fruit than Snorway, and having been distracted by down under for some time, I'm going to bash through these.
Pas-de-Calais (62) first - just as I have some (small) travels there from a couple of booze cruise (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Booze_cruise) family day trips back in the 90s when such a thing was all-the-rage, before the economics made it excessive for everyday consumption and the 'exoticness' of Calais stopped (in part because regular trips abroad became the norm, and because British supermarkets started stocking larger ranges).
D1, D1E1, D2 - fine
D3 - presumably D860 (RueMar/RueChaFla) and D917 (AveMarLec) are not in browser as unsigned (or at least not in that area in the case of D917). I've found a D60 sign at RueMar, which was the old pre-bypass number and that's the only number (including D3) I've seen along the route inside the newer D60 route. Suggest truncating there, unless signed, for consistency.
D4 - fine
D5, D5Her, etc - Nord in borders needs to be Nor, IIRC (see also rule on suffixes, where 4 letter ones are only allowed if its <3 letter abbrev><direction>). I won't mention it on other routes as it might get repetitive.
D5E1, D5E2, D6, D6Mar, D6E1, D6E2, D7, D7Ber, D7E1, D7E2 - fine
D7E3 - D7 -> D7/D9
D7E4, D8, D8E2
D8E4 - marked as E3 on OSM, signed as just 'E' (presumably they all are, with the number an admin thing). check number is OK.
D9, D9E1, D9E2, D9E4, D9E5, D9E6 - fine
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D10, D10E1, D10E2, D10E3, D10E4, D11, D11Sar, D11E1, D11E2, D11E3, D12, D12E1, D13, D14, D14E2, D14E4, D15 - fine
D15E2 - PdC/Nord (sic) is off where OSM has put the border. Check you have it in right place.
D15E3, D16, D16E1, D17, D18, D18E1, D19 - fine
D19Eco - what's the route between D939 and D14/D16? Needs another point at D14/D939 from what I can make out.
D19E1, D19E2, D19E3 - fine
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D15E2 - PdC/Nord (sic) is off where OSM has put the border. Check you have it in right place.
General note on departement borders - not region borders - all over France:
I located them where the administration / maintenance changes. That means where a mile post (or stone) can be found on GSV or between the blue "departement welcome signs" if they exist. Where I can find a pavement change or where a marking is on the road. Often Dxx extends a little bit to the next junction in the neighboring departement.
I didn't do that for IDF which systems are already active.
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D20 - fine
D21 - D643 -> D21E2/D643?
D21E1 - fine
D21E2 - D643 -> D21/D643?
D22, D23, D23E1, D23E2, D23E, D24, D25, D25E1 - fine
D26
- D23E1 -> D23E1_W
- add point between N25_E and D1 for where road to N25_W intersects
D27, D27Ach, D28, D29, D29Pui - fine
D30 - change self-ref labels at D8 junctions
D31, D31E, D32, D33, D33E1, D33E3, D34, D34E1
D35 - D4 -> D4_E?
D36
- D35_N -> D35_S
- D917_N -> D9/D917
D36E1, D36E2, D36E3, D36E4 - fine
D37 - BlvdEur -> BlvdEur_E
D37E1, D38, D39, D39E, D39E6 - fine
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D15E2 - PdC/Nord (sic) is off where OSM has put the border. Check you have it in right place.
General note on departement borders - not region borders - all over France:
I located them where the administration / maintenance changes. That means where a mile post (or stone) can be found on GSV or between the blue "departement welcome signs" if they exist. Where I can find a pavement change or where a marking is on the road. Often Dxx extends a little bit to the next junction in the neighboring departement.
My point wasn't that it was in the wrong place, my point was that it might be in the wrong place and that it ought to be checked. Given I'm not seeing any points that are off for junctions and the like, I'll ignore when a border point (as opposed to a junction point with a road just beyond the border, which I was ignoring) doesn't match where OSM has put the border.
D40, D40E1, D42, D42E3, D42E4, D43, D44, D44E1, D44E2, D45, D46, D46E, D47, D48, D49, D49E1, D49E2, D49E3, D49E4, D49E5 - all the 40s are fine!
D50 - fine
D50E1 - D50/D50E2 -> D50 as, IIRC, in IDF, you collapsed intersections where a route met a parent and a suffixed route to just mention the parent.
D50E2 - D50/D50E1 -> D50 as ditto. See also points like D40_W on D46, which also intersects with D40E1. Or D80_S on D59.
D51 - D937 -> D58/D937
D51E1, D52, D52E2, D53, D54, D54E1, D54E2, D55, D55E1, D55E2, D56 - fine
D57
- D301 -> D301/D941
- D937 -> D58/D937
D57E1, D57E2, D57E3, D58
D58E1 - D58/D58E4 -> D58
D58E2, D58E3 - fine
D58E4 - D58/D58E1 -> D58
D59, D59E2 - fine
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D3 - presumably D860 (RueMar/RueChaFla) and D917 (AveMarLec) are not in browser as unsigned (or at least not in that area in the case of D917). I've found a D60 sign at RueMar, which was the old pre-bypass number and that's the only number (including D3) I've seen along the route inside the newer D60 route. Suggest truncating there, unless signed, for consistency.
This route: https://travelmapping.net/hb/showroute.php?r=frahdf.d000362&lat=50.273768&lon=2.772632&zoom=14
There is a (new) sign on March 2020 GSV from D60 inbound (https://www.google.com/maps/@50.2582397,2.7416557,3a,15y,296.5h,98.64t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1snuYgJVdcDYIyRnhelp2XMQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192). That means, your suggestion is most likely not a good approach.
The last (old) D3 sign on March 2020 GSV is where I have "RueChaFer" with outbound and inbound signs (https://www.google.com/maps/@50.2765908,2.7621348,3a,15y,353.24h,81.4t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sN4NBXUnDtgQu6toFNpVJIQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192).
Both, OSM and GM indicate D3 up to "AveMarLec" where I have the end point right now. That's also how we dealt in Belgium. However, France is not Belgium.
It is a general issue for France to figure out where the maintenance changes to local administration, and where to end the TM route.
I usually have no info about it and departements deal differently.
If a route goes through a small town and the routing is clear, I don't interrupt the route.
If the route leads into a bigger town or city with the route ending anywhere in the town, the last signs are often
- on top of the town entrance sign or
- at (one of) the first (major) junction - with a outbound sign only
If the latter is the case, I put the wp there because signposting is quite clear.
In case of the former, I put the wp to the first (major) junction assuming that they dealt similarily but the outbound sign is missing. If there is a junction to another TM route (in HB for any reason mentioned before) which is close, I extend the route to the that junction.
The question for D3 is, whether the very old signs at "RueChaFer" should count or not.
If not, the next - outbound only - sign is at "RueMar" junction" (https://www.google.com/maps/@50.2672394,2.7536601,3a,15y,103.46h,92.97t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sJRh9s9opYUN2jSpFN_rqqA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) but there is also the D60 sign you mentioned which is for the old D60 routing and outdated / incorrect sign.
This junction also features the Achicourt (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achicourt) entrance sign inbound. It is a commune with 7k inhabitants. An independent commune, not belonging to the city of Arras (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arras) with a population of 41k which is likely the local authority for the maintenance within its city boundaries.
The boundary between both is here (https://www.google.com/maps/@50.2815154,2.7682351,3a,15y,54.77h,86.85t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s2ZBmQVWfJ3ByNMZMPCvFKw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) and "RueAdamHal" the next junction inbound.
Most of the other routes end at the first major junction in Arras, extend further than the ring road. The green route is D3 we are talking about.
(https://forum.travelmapping.net/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3630.0;attach=350)
Possible location for the last D3 wp:
- D60: no! There is a new inbound sign and it is far away from the city entrance
- RueMar: Last old but not very old outbound sign at the entrance to Achicourt
- RueChaFer: Old signs but in both directions
- Between RueChaFer and RueAdamHal: Entrance to Arras, junction could be considered major enough
- RueAdamHal: First major junction in Arras
- AveMarLec: Important route in Arras and current end and according to OSM+GM
Thoughts?
Finding a decision is also important for (many) other routes down the road...
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https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/4501
D8E4 - marked as E3 on OSM, signed as just 'E' (presumably they all are, with the number an admin thing). check number is OK.
E4 is indicated on the milepost (https://www.google.com/maps/@50.3668188,2.3896948,3a,15y,19.8h,76.04t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sl99IT7BKIJdouJ5zzt9rUQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656).
D19Eco - what's the route between D939 and D14/D16? Needs another point at D14/D939 from what I can make out.
It is unsigned and a concurrency with D14/D939 has no evidence since the unsigned (direct) segment might be meant to be part of D19. It looks like I just forgot splitting the route. Done now.
D50E1 - D50/D50E2 -> D50 as, IIRC, in IDF, you collapsed intersections where a route met a parent and a suffixed route to just mention the parent.
D50E2 - D50/D50E1 -> D50 as ditto. See also points like D40_W on D46, which also intersects with D40E1. Or D80_S on D59.
D58E1 - D58/D58E4 -> D58
D58E4 - D58/D58E1 -> D58
I only omit the child when the routes have different parents. D50E1 and D50E2 have the same parent - D50.
If D1 intersects D2 and D2E, the D1 point is only called D2.
If D1 intersects D1E1 and D1E2, the D1 point is called D1E1/D1E2.
If D1E1 intersects D1 and D1Es, the D1E1 point is called D1/D1E2.
The problem is that children tend to intersect their parents more than once and one might run into trouble when trying to catch the right wp. Simplicity is worse in this case.
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re:D3
D60: no! There is a new inbound sign and it is far away from the city entrance I missed that sign
RueMar: Last old but not very old outbound sign at the entrance to Achicourt
RueChaFer: Old signs but in both directions Also signed here with old signs (on walls, with newer directional signage on poles) is the D5E, which isn't in the browser.
Between RueChaFer and RueAdamHal: Entrance to Arras, junction could be considered major enough
RueAdamHal: First major junction in Arras
AveMarLec: Important route in Arras and current end and according to OSM+GM An important route that isn't in the browser as that section is unsigned. You split both the D919 and D917 either side of Arras, which also applies to the D3 here (only that doesn't emerge out the other side of the city)
Fleshing this out a bit more. There seems to be an inconsistency here. I'm not that fussed where you end it, as long as it's consistent with everything else. AFAICS, from all the detail you've given, that's either RueMar or the first practical place north of RueChaFer (depending on whether you count the superceded old signs as valid, in which case add the D5E!).
I only omit the child when the routes have different parents. D50E1 and D50E2 have the same parent - D50.
If D1 intersects D2 and D2E, the D1 point is only called D2.
If D1 intersects D1E1 and D1E2, the D1 point is called D1E1/D1E2.
If D1E1 intersects D1 and D1Es, the D1E1 point is called D1/D1E2.
OK, got you.
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D60, D60E1, D61, D62, D63, D63Lau - fine
D65 - add point at Rue Jean Moulin to correspond to the end of D179
D66, D67, D68, D69 - fine
D70
- rename D70E6 (or add route if it needs adding)
- add point in Chocques where Rue Principale turns off (links to D181 the other side of the town)
D70E1, D70E2, D70E3, D70E4, D70E5, D71, D71E1, D71E2, D71E3, D72, D72E1, D72E2, D72E3, D73, D73E2, D73E3, D74, D74E1, D74E2, D74E3, D75, D75E1, D75E2, D75E3, D76, D77, D77E1, D77E2, D77E3, D77E4, D78, D78E1, D78E2, D78E3, D79, D79E1 - all fine
D80, D80E1, D81, D81E1, D81E2, D81E3, D82, D82E1, D83, D83E1, D84, D84E1, D85, D85E1, D85E2, D85E3, D85E4, D86, D86E1, D86E2, D86E3, D86E4, D87, D88, D89, D89E1, D89E2 - all 80s fine
D90, D90E1, D90E2, D90E3, D91, D91E1, D91E2, D92, D92E1, D92E2, D93, D94, D94E1, D94E2, D94E3, D95, D95E1, D95E2, D96, D96E1, D97, D97Ber, D98 - all fine
D99
- RueEgl - move to unsigned D100?
- add point for road to Siracourt to match s end of signed bit of D100
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If memory serves I only did D3 as I did because OSM + GM went identically. When I compare it with the other routes into Arras, I should definitely truncate it but to where? I tend to put it to the entrance sign of Arras (http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=50.281546&lon=2.768249) or to the first junction inbound (http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=50.283192&lon=2.770759).
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If memory serves I only did D3 as I did because OSM + GM went identically. When I compare it with the other routes into Arras, I should definitely truncate it but to where? I tend to put it to the entrance sign of Arras (http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=50.281546&lon=2.768249) or to the first junction inbound (http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=50.283192&lon=2.770759).
I'd edited my OP 7 seconds before you posted this.
Fleshing this out a bit more. There seems to be an inconsistency here. I'm not that fussed where you end it, as long as it's consistent with everything else. AFAICS, from all the detail you've given, that's either RueMar or the first practical place north of RueChaFer (depending on whether you count the superceded old signs as valid, in which case add the D5E!).
"First practical place" if you go that way is either RueAdamHal or the boundary - your choice.
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Jumping to the other end (because high numbers = major routes that were formally national)
D901, D901E1, D901E2, D901E3 - fine
D916 - Bus_S -> RueSaiVen_N
D917, D917Arr, D917Car, D917Vim, D918, D919, D919Boi, D925, D928, D928Ome, D929, D930, D930Gra, D933, D933Arq, D937, D938, D938Sar, D939, D939Cam, D939Mar, D940 - fine
D940Ove - missing point for GSJ just south of AveFraMit
D940E1, D941, D941Aux, D942, D943 - fine
D943E1 - should D214/D300 refer to D943 as this is an auxiliary route of it?
D945 - D937 points should be N/S rather than east west as a better fit
D945Sai - move D176E2/M945 to the middle of roundabout
D947, D947Lor, D950, D954, D954E2, D956, D956Tor - fine
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https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/4503
Fleshing this out a bit more. There seems to be an inconsistency here. I'm not that fussed where you end it, as long as it's consistent with everything else. AFAICS, from all the detail you've given, that's either RueMar or the first practical place north of RueChaFer (depending on whether you count the superceded old signs as valid, in which case add the D5E!).
I don't want to add D5E. D3 truncated to last old but not very old outbound sign at Achicourt entrance - similar to D919 just a little bit to the east.
D70
- rename D70E6 (or add route if it needs adding)
Added.
General note for all my systems in France:
I usually check the existance of intersecting routes when drafting routes. If a wp Dxxx exists, I think that the route should exist. If the route is missing in HB, it should be added! Please report all cases.
D916 - Bus_S -> RueSaiVen_N
I didn't have a good name for Bus_N (it is just the village name) and used Bus_S to be consistent. Changed now.
D943E1 - should D214/D300 refer to D943 as this is an auxiliary route of it?
D214, D300 and D943 intersect D943E1. We discussed in the general frad thread how to label wps with more than 2 intersecting routes. Prioritizing the more important route, here D943, or going with ascending order. You just said I should be consistent and I went for the latter. I never thought about being inconsisent for parent routes. Keep as-is.
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D300, D301, D302, D303, D304, D305, D306, D307, D308, D309, D317, D339 - fine
D340 - D341 -> D941
D341, D342 - fine
D343 - add point just before D841/D916 to correspond to D841 point 'RueHes'
D349, D477, D488, D841 - fine
D841Pol - RueHes -> RueHes_E
D845 - fine
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D100, D101, D102, D102E1, D102E2 - fine
D103 - add point north of Hameau de Petit Hovin to correspond with east end of D102E2
D104, D104E1, D105, D106, D107, D107E1, D108, D108E1, D109, D109E1 - fine
D110
- add point for Rue du Presbytere where westbound traffic has to turn off.
- D09_W -> D109_W
D110E1 - fine
D110E2 - add point RueEgl_S where it turns (matches new RuePre point on D110)
D111, D112, D113, D113Eta, D113Hes, D113E1, D113E2, D113E3, D113E4, D113E6, D114, D115, D115E2, D116, D117, D118, D118E1 - fine
D119
- D940E1/D901 -> D901/D940E1 (numerical order)
- D941 -> D938/D941
D119Bou - RueEdmPal -> RueEdmPal_W
D119Cal
- RueNor_N -> RueNord_N
- Hem_W -> RueIsl ?
- Hem_E -> RueHem
D119E - fine
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https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/4509
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D70E6, D120, D121, D122, D122E1, D123, D123E1, D124, D125 - fine
D125E1 - CheBiaJum_N -> CheBlaJum_N
D125E2, D126, D127, D127E2, D127E3, D127E4, D127E5, D128, D128E1, D129, D129E1, D129E2, D129E3 - fine
D130 - D104/D928 -> D104/D343
D130E1, D130E2, D131 - fine
D131E3 - D156_N <-> D156_S
D132, D133, D133E1, D134, D134E1, D134E2, D134E3, D135, D135E1, D136, D136E1, D136E2, D136E2Mou, D137, D137E1, D137E2, D137E3, D138, D138E1, D138E2, D138E3, D138E4, D139, D139E1 - fine
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D140, D141, D142, D142E1, D142E2, D142E3, D143, D143E1, D143E2, D143E3, D144, D144E1, D144E2, D144E3, D145, D146, D146E1, D146E2, D147, D147E1 - fine
D148 - D156_N <-> D156_S
D148E2, D148E5, D148E6, D149, D149E1, D149E2 - fine
D150, D151, D151E1, D152, D152E1, D153, D154, D155, D155E1, D156, D156E1, D157, D157E1, D157E3, D158, D158Enq, D158E1, D158E2, D159 - all 15xs fine
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Thanks :) https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/4512
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D160, D160E1, D160E2, D161, D161E1, D161E2, D161E3, D161E4, D162, D162E1, D162E2, D163, D163Carm - fine
D163Oig - RueFus -> PdC/Nor (no intersecting route, but the route on the continuation of this route on the other side of the border)
D163E2, D164, D164E2 - fine
D165 - D58/D937 -> D937_S (D58 doesn't diverge from D165 here)
D165Meu, D165E1, D165E2, D166, D166E1, D166E2, D166E3, D167, D167E1, D167E2 - fine
D167E3 - CheRoy -> PdC/Nor
D168, D168Lav, D168E1, D168E4, D169, D170, D170E1, D171 - fine
D171Bet - turn at D941/D943 is impossible. Cut route in two, with southern section beginning at D172E2/D941. Relabel D171/D94x on D941 and D943 to not have D171 (needs doing on D941 anyway as concurrent, not divergent, around that point).
D171E2, D171E3, D172, D172E1, D172E3, D172E4, D173, D174, D174E1 - fine
D174E2 - add points RueBat_W and RueBat_E for shaping and also to link to D176 RueBat_W point and D166/D175 intersection
D175, D175Bou - fine
D176 - D945_W -> D945
D176E1, D176E2 - fine
D178
- D845 -> D182/D845_N
- D182/D845 -> D182/D845_S
D179
- D179E1/D179E2 -> D179E1
- D65 -> D65_S
- D937 -> D937_S
D179E1, D179E2 - fine
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D171Bet (https://travelmapping.net/hb/showroute.php?r=frahdf.d017162bet&lat=50.459492&lon=2.619199&zoom=16) (or whatever the southern portion is called post-split) and D179 (https://travelmapping.net/hb/showroute.php?r=frahdf.d017962&lat=50.459492&lon=2.619199&zoom=16) surely interact in Barlin south of the D188? Fix.
D180, D180E1, D181, D181E1, D181E2, D181E4, D181E5, D181E6, D181E7, D181E8, D182, D182E1, D183, D183E1, D183E2, D184, D185, D185E1, D185E2 - fine
D186 - D187_N or D187_E needs to switch to _W / _S to make a pair.
D186E1 - fine
D186E2 - D341 -> D159/D341
D186E3, D186E4, D186E, D187, D187E1, D188, D188E2, D189 - fine
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https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/4513
D165 - D58/D937 -> D937_S (D58 doesn't diverge from D165 here)
It does! (https://travelmapping.net/hb/showroute.php?r=frahdf.d016562&lat=50.426450&lon=2.712419&zoom=18)
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D190, D191, D191E1, D191E2, D191E4, D192, D192E1, D192E2, D193, D193E1, D194, D195, D195E1, D196, D197 - fine
D1971E1, D197E2 - D147E3/D197Ex -> D157E3/D197Ex
D198 - fine
D199 - RuePot -> RuePot_W ?
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D199 - RuePot -> RuePot_W ?
According to which rule? Rue Pottier intersects here and that it intersects the route again doesn't matter since I don't have a wp there.
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According to which rule? Rue Pottier intersects here and that it intersects the route again doesn't matter since I don't have a wp there.
Diverging concurrency, surely?
If not. Then add a corresponding point where the concurrency with that road diverges (presumably at the other end of the one-way village bypass) and another point to disambiguate the route.
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According to which rule? Rue Pottier intersects here and that it intersects the route again doesn't matter since I don't have a wp there.
Diverging concurrency, surely?
If not. Then add a corresponding point where the concurrency with that road diverges (presumably at the other end of the one-way village bypass) and another point to disambiguate the route.
It does not diverging concurrency. That's why we don't need _W. RuePot is just fine.
https://travelmapping.net/hb/showroute.php?r=frahdf.d019962
Do I miss anything? :o
Edit: Okay, D199 meets Rue Pottiers again but there is no concurrency at RuePot wp. D199 does not turn here but goes to the church.
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D199 does not turn here but goes to the church.
That remains not that clearIf not. Then add a corresponding point where the concurrency with that road diverges (presumably at the other end of the one-way village bypass) and another point to disambiguate the route.
Anyway, the 200s, which are the last ones left in Pas-de-Calais.
D200, D201 - fine
D202 - D204 -> D204/D215
D203, D203E1 - fine
D204 - add point for Rue de Centre (between D215 and D254) as D202 has point to the south
D204E1, D204E2, D204E4, D205, D206, D206E1, D206E2, D207, D208, D208E1, D208E2, D209, D209E1, D209E2, D210, D210E1, D210E2, D211, D211E2, D212, D212Hel, D212E1, D212E2, D213, D214, D214E1 - fine
D215
- D231/D304 -> D231/D244
- D204 -> D204_E
- D202 -> D202/D204
D215Sam, D215E1, D215E2, D215E3, D215E4, D216, D216E1, D217, D217E1, D218, D218E1, D219, D219E1 - fine
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D220 - fine
D221 - D221E1 add route or rename
D222 - D221E1 add route or rename
D223, D223E1, D224, D224E1, D224E2, D224E3, D225, D225E1, D225E2, D225E3, D226, D226E1, D226E2, D227, D228, D228E1, D229, D230 - fine
D231
- D191 -> D191/D238
- D215/D304 -> D215/D244
D231E2 - D304 -> D244/D304
D231E3, D232 - fine
D233 - RueRaoLeb -> RueRaoLeb_W
D233E1, D233E2, D233E3, D234, D235 - fine
D236 - Par -> EspGenGal (Esplande General de Gaulle is on a sign at the end of the road/access from the car park)
D237, D237E1, D237E2, D237E3, D237E4 - fine
D238 - D242E1 add route or rename
D238E1, D238E2, D238E3, D239 - fine
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D199 does not turn here but goes to the church.
That remains not that clear
D199 - RuePot -> RuePot_W ?
RuePot -> RuePot_N and new wps RueHav + RuePot_W
https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/4572
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D240, D241, D241E1, D242, D242E3, D243, D243E1, D243E2, D243E3, D243E4, D244 - fine
D244E1
- A16(37)_E -> ToA16
- A16(36)_W -> A16(37)
D245, D245Cal, D245E2, D246, D246E1, D247, D247E1, D247E2, D247E3, D247E4, D248, D248E1 - fine
D249 - RouAus -> RouAus_E
D249E1, D250, D251, D251E1, D252, D252E1, D253, D253E2, D254, D254E1, D254E2, D255, D257, D258, D260, D262, D266 - fine
That's Pas-de-Calais reviewed.
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Thanks for the review :)
https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/4577
I'll check NMPs and concurrencies before activation.
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Lille Metropolitan Routes:
M5, M5A, M5B, M5C, M6, M6Lys, M6D, M6DG, M7 - fine
M7Per - M36_N is off
M7A, M7B, M8, M9, M9Rou - fine
M14
- add point for AveNot
- M48_N <-> M48_S
M19, M22, M22Arm, M22B, M22C, M22D - fine
M36 - M7_S is off
M36A, M39, M39Sec, M39A, M41, M41A, M41B - fine
M48
- RueGuyMon -> RueGuyMon_N
- RueGeoCle -> RueGeoCle_N
M48A, M48B, M48C, M51, M54 - fine
M57 - add point for RuePreCat (links to M749 GSJ)
M62
- M141_N -> M141_E
- M62 -> M7
M62Sec, M63, M63Enn, M64, M64Was, M64Wil, M78, M90 - fine
M91 - add point for A22 on-ramp (labelled as 15a on A22 (https://travelmapping.net/hb/showroute.php?r=frahdf.a022&lat=50.734703&lon=3.141425&zoom=15))
M91Wat - BlvdPieMenFra -> BlvdPMF or something else shorter
M93, M94 - fine
A22/E17 - move 10 / 10(A22) to Trumpet overbridge
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https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/4578
frahdfd62 - Pas-de-Calais Routes Départementales will be activated with the next site update.
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M108, M108A, M108B, M112, M112Was, M141, M141Han, M141A, M141B, M145, M145Fre, M145Hou, M145Wat, M145A, M145B, M145D, M145F, M145H, M145J, M146, M147, M147Car, M149, M162, M171, M191 - all M1xx routes fine
M206, M207, M207Hal, M207A, M207B, M208, M208A, M222, M239, M241, M257, M291 - all M2xx routes fine
M308, M341, M349, M357, M391, M422, M441, M445 - all M3xx and M4xx routes fine
M506 - M227 -> N227
M549, M617, M626, M628, M639 - fine
M641 - Add point for Rue de Canteleu (links to D167E3-62)
M651, M652, M654, M654Bon, M655 - fine
M656
- add point '9 (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.698321,3.1514777,3a,35.9y,38.99h,90.34t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sCMqEWSMF9LdGB0oOewSmew!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en)' for Pont du Fresnoy (also M760 and to-be-removed D656)
- M652 -> 7b (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.6836184,3.1325573,3a,27.6y,224.87h,90.11t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sYCOxKEghFSm_z2MlahGO3Q!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en)
- M64 -> 7a (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.6850914,3.134513,3a,25.4y,217.08h,88.46t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1szZmWgAxocNuRiPM3-VbfFA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en)
- M760_S -> 8 (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.6892606,3.1406781,3a,22.9y,52.68h,90.21t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s4hWlAqfAQTftEQ12MsowDQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en)
- M760/M775 -> 10 (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.6992881,3.1526763,3a,23.9y,35.13h,93.83t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sOEKzq61ecmfAm3PQSnSlPA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en)
M660, M660Wat, M670, M671 - fine
Don't forget Boulevard Péripherique Est de Lille (https://travelmapping.net/hb/showroute.php?r=frahdf.d651), Rocade Nord Ouest, Lille (https://travelmapping.net/hb/showroute.php?r=frahdf.d652) and Voie Rapide Urbane, Roubaix (https://travelmapping.net/hb/showroute.php?r=frahdf.d656) will need removing on activation and AltRouteNames added to M651, M652 and M656.
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https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/4607
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M700 - fine
M749 - PontWinChu -> AveWinChu (there maybe some other labels like this where you've named it after the bridge over the main road that's named after the cross road)
M750, M751 - fine
M760 - does it run concurrent with M656? Signage suggests not, AFAICS.
M765, M770, M775, M791 - fine
M917 - AveJeanJau -> AveJeanJau_S
M917Hal, M925, M933, M941, M941Hau, M945, M945Erq, M945A, M947H, M949 - fine
M952 - add point for A25
M952Bon, M952Per, M955, M1952, M2945 - fine
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https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/4623
Any other comment before activation? I'll make data check, NMP check, remove routes from eursf....
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frahdfm59 - Métropole européenne de Lille Routes Métropolitaines will be activated with the next site update.
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D1 - N136 -> N316
D1Dun - D601_W & RueLeonDron - one point at underpass? (also D601)
D1D, D2 - fine
D3 - Signed to end at Belgian border (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.9770818,2.6062796,3a,15y,93.76h,88.79t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sb0ECmbV4hDSNKFVlZcoL1Q!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en)
D3B, D4, D8, D8A, D8C, D8D - fine
D10 - N38 -> D948 (surely go with French route, not Belgian?)
D10A, D11, D11A, D11G - fine
D12 - D27/D115 -> D115? (as D27 is across the border in Ainse)
D13, D13A, D15, D16, D16A - fine
D17 - End -> ParRivAa?
D17A - fine
D18 - D948_S -> D948_E
D18A, D19, D20 - fine
D21 - add point for Ave Simone Veil (unsigned D643B) as major turning
D23, D23C, D23D, D24, D25 - fine
D25Sin - remove D35 as part of the other route
D25A, D26 - fine
D27
- D27D is off
- D962_E is off
D27D - D27/D962 is off
D28 - N2 -> N2/N49 (see N2/N49 comment below)
D28A, D29, D29Gou, D29B, D30, D30A, D31, D32, D33, D33B, D33C, D34, D34A, D34B, D35, D35A - fine
D37
- D948_E -> D18/D948
- move D37A to middle of new roundabout
D37A - D37 new roundabout
D38, D39 - fine
N2/N49 - the N2 between D649_W and D28/D649 is signed as, and officially, N49 (https://routes.fandom.com/wiki/Route_nationale_fran%C3%A7aise_49), rather than N2 (long-standing omission of mine that I hadn't seen until reviewing the D28)
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D40, D40A, D40AHas, D40B, D41 - fine
D42 - add point for GSJ at Rue Jeanne III
D43, D43A, D44, D45, D46, D47, D47A, D47B, D47E, D49, D50, D50A, D50AFre, D52, D52AD, D53, D53B - fine
D54 - RueGilFacq -> Nor/PdC
D54A, D54B, D54C, D55, D55Ebb, D55B, D55D, D55E, D56, D58, D58A, D59 - fine
D60 - RueLef_E -> RueLef
D61, D61E, D62, D62Pha, D62A, D62B, D65, D66 - fine
D67 - D77 doesn't connect
D68 - fine
D69 - add a shaping point between D23_S and D946 to help distinguish route
D69A - fine
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https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/6093
D12 - D27/D115 -> D115? (as D27 is across the border in Ainse)
I'd like to keep it as-is because it is not an official TM border. I think it's also in combination with the recent discussion about departement border labels (https://forum.travelmapping.net/index.php?topic=3628.msg29505#msg29505).
D17 - End -> ParRivAa?
ParRivAa --> ParcRivAa
D54 - RueGilFacq -> Nor/PdC
Yep, michih, damn! https://travelmapping.net/devel/manual/wayptlabels.php#county
In the rare case of a highway ending at a county or other border, use the first three letters of the subdivision name for each side.
However, this raised the question if departement border waypoint should generally be best choise, see D12's wp. Should it rather be Nor/Ais than D27/D115 or D115?
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I'd suggest, based on what you've typically done, and what I've recommended where there's been exceptions to that typical practise, that we use the following guideline (not a manual rule):
When a road ends at a local boundary (ie one that doesn't change the TM region) that is co-located with a junction then:
1. if the local boundary is not the boundary of the system limits (eg a commune boundary within a department), then treat as a regular junction rather than a boundary
2. if the local boundary is the boundary of the system limits (eg a departmental boundary for a departmental system*), then either
a) if the junction is with another TM road that is the same side of the boundary, treat as a junction**
b) if the junction is not, treat as a boundary
The reasoning for b) is that the most relevant information here is that it's the system reaching its limits, with possibly a different system continuing the other side of the boundary, rather than a road junction.
*We'll ignore metropole/department boundaries, as the metropole (with the exception of Lille) is part of the department.
** I'd argue that this applies to regional boundaries too - cf the D10 here. The BEL N38 label should be BEL/FRA, the D10 and D938 should refer to the other Nord Route Departmentale.
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I agree on all* but one:
The BEL N38 label should be BEL/FRA, the D10 and D938 should refer to the other Nord Route Departmentale.
D10 intersects (https://travelmapping.net/hb/showroute.php?r=frahdf.d001059&lat=50.816876&lon=2.671598&zoom=16) the French D938 and the Belgian N38 at the junction. Border labels should only exist at the end or beginning of a chopped route. I drafted chopped routes differently in my early day - border labels also on a route - but fully agree for a long time now. D938 and N38 end at the junction and it is also a TM border - even an international border - and thus both labels should be FRA/BEL.
*you will face quite some labels which are not according to your best practise. Please report them :)
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D10 intersects (https://travelmapping.net/hb/showroute.php?r=frahdf.d001059&lat=50.816876&lon=2.671598&zoom=16) the French D938 and the Belgian N38 at the junction. Border labels should only exist at the end or beginning of a chopped route. I drafted chopped routes differently in my early day - border labels also on a route - but fully agree for a long time now. D938 and N38 end at the junction and it is also a TM border - even an international border - and thus both labels should be FRA/BEL.
That sounds fine. Though that means that one in IDF needs changing as its a region border...
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D10 intersects (https://travelmapping.net/hb/showroute.php?r=frahdf.d001059&lat=50.816876&lon=2.671598&zoom=16) the French D938 and the Belgian N38 at the junction. Border labels should only exist at the end or beginning of a chopped route. I drafted chopped routes differently in my early day - border labels also on a route - but fully agree for a long time now. D938 and N38 end at the junction and it is also a TM border - even an international border - and thus both labels should be FRA/BEL.
That sounds fine. Though that means that one in IDF needs changing as its a region border...
You mean this:
I did say this one, but it's not the route over the border:
D924
- HDF/IDF -> D929
but that's as it meets D929 (https://travelmapping.net/hb/showroute.php?units=miles&u=michih&r=frahdf.d000495&lat=49.163705&lon=2.294748&zoom=15) in that system and region. In fact it also meets D4 from that system, but not in that region.
I changed the label back in 2020 without any comment.... Was I craven? Or was it blind trust?
There is another wp at the BEL/LUX border (discussed on internal thread) (https://forum.travelmapping.net/index.php?topic=3031) which is even more difficult as LUX N31 (https://travelmapping.net/hb/showroute.php?r=lux.n031&lat=49.554547&lon=5.843927&zoom=17) has an additional border wp just 0.01mi next to it - in-between of the interchange. And BEL N872 (https://travelmapping.net/hb/showroute.php?r=bel.n872&lat=49.554562&lon=5.843959&zoom=17) ends 0.02mi next to it.
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When a road ends at a local boundary (ie one that doesn't change the TM region) that is co-located with a junction then:
How to deal "when a road ends at a junction beyond the local boundary"? D19-40, D343-40 and D48-64 intersect here. It is located in departement 64:
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.5093987,-1.1117324,3a,81.4y,304.19h,76.51t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s8a8zQhp2bewktlmdBnI7TQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
https://travelmapping.net/hb/showroute.php?r=franaq.d004864&lat=43.510106&lon=-1.110424&zoom=16
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^^ How you've done it makes the most sense.
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^^ How you've done it makes the most sense.
Can we agree on:
When a road ends at or beyond a local boundary (ie one that doesn't change the TM region) that is co-located with a junction, treat it as a regular junction rather than a boundary.
Nevertheless, I need to change the junction labels at the HDF/IDF border (https://travelmapping.net/hb/showroute.php?r=fraidf.d092495&lat=49.164911&lon=2.285827&zoom=17):
Though that means that one in IDF needs changing as its a region border...
You mean this:
I did say this one, but it's not the route over the border:
D924
- HDF/IDF -> D929
but that's as it meets D929 (https://travelmapping.net/hb/showroute.php?units=miles&u=michih&r=frahdf.d000495&lat=49.163705&lon=2.294748&zoom=15) in that system and region. In fact it also meets D4 from that system, but not in that region.
I changed the label back in 2020 without any comment.... Was I craven? Or was it blind trust?
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^^ How you've done it makes the most sense.
Can we agree on:
When a road ends at or beyond a local boundary (ie one that doesn't change the TM region) that is co-located with a junction, treat it as a regular junction rather than a boundary.
Did I get it wrong? Should I interpret the silence as consent or refusal?
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Did I get it wrong? Should I interpret the silence as consent or refusal?
Consent
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D70 - add point for RuePoi_N to disambiguate route between RueJulFra and RueTFD?
D71, D72, D73, D74, D74A, D75, D75A, D75E, D76, D76A, D77, D79, D80 - fine
D81 - add point for RueGeoDhe (D343A) as there's a point on D343 at the other end
D81A, D82 - fine
D83 - RouBal -> RouBai
D84, D85, D86, D86A, D86B, D87 - fine
D88 - add point for Rue Jean Moulin in Avesnes-le-Sec?
D89, D90, D92, D93, D93A, D93B, D94, D94A, D95, D95A, D95D - fine
D96 - D917 -> D917_E?
D96A, D97, D97A, D97B, D97C, D98, D98B, D98C, D99 - fine
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D100 - D86B_Eng is a near miss with the D100_Eng point on D86B
D101 - RueCre -> RueCre_N
D102, D102A, D103, D103A - fine
D104 - D93 -> D83
D105 - N2 -> N2/N49
D105A, D106, D107, D109, D110, D111, D113, D113D, D114 - fine
D115 - add point for D1016 (even if not signed as such)
D115A, D116, D116Ret, D116A - fine
D117 - D117A is off
D117A - D117 is off
D118, D118A, D118B, D119 - fine
D120 - D934 -> D954
D120Aub, D120B, D120C - fine
D121 - surely a concurrency with D959 at D959_S rather than just jumping from D95 to that junction?
D121B, D122 - fine
D122Cro - D166 -> RueSai
D122A, D122C, D122D, D123, D123A, D124 - fine
D125 - RueFer -> RueFer_E
D125A, D125B, D125C, D125D, D126, D126A, D127, D127A, D128, D129 - fine
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D130, D131, D131A, D132, D132A, D132B, D132C, D133, D133B, D133C, D134, D134B, D135, D135A, D135B - fine
D136 - N2_S -> N2/N49
D136A, D137, D138, D139, D140, D140A, D140B, D142, D143, D144, D145, D145Enn, D147, D148, D148A - fine
D150, D151, D152, D153, D154, D154A, D154B, D155, D155A, D156, D157, D158, D158B, D159 - fine
D160, D160A, D160B, D161, D167, D168, D169, D169A, D169B, D170, D173, D188, D195, D195A, D195B - fine
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D202, D203, D204, D205, D211, D213, D217, D218, D218A, D220 - fine
D220A -> D230A (rename route)
D223, D224, D225, D225N, D226, D228, D230, D232, D233, D235, D236, D238, D240, D243, D246, D247, D248, D249 - fine
D250 - add point for 'D87' (unsigned there) as leads to D50A/D87 junction
D252, D253, D254, D255, D259, D266, D266A, D267, D268, D268A, D270, D277, D280, D281, D283, D286, D288 - fine
D295 - D959/D602 -> D602/D959 (you normally do them numerical order
D297, D299 - fine
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D300, D301, D302, D304, D305, D306, D307, D310, D313, D316, D318 - fine
D320, D320A, D321, D322, D324, D325, D326, D327, D330, D335, D336, D338, D340, D343, D345, D346 - fine
D350 - D50A -> D50A/D59
D350A, D352, D354, D355, D359, D360, D368, D373, D375, D380, D381, D383, D386 - fine
D400, D402, D403, D405, D406, D413, D417, D418, D420, D422, D424 - fine
D425, D426, D427, D430, D436, D438, D440, D449, D455, D457, D468, D470 - fine
D500, D505, D517, D520, D524, D540, D549, D588 - fine
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D601, D602, D621, D625, D630, D630Onn, D636, D642 - fine
D643 - add point for D1016 (and add route?)
D644, D645 - fine
D649 - break in 2, either side of the N49?
D650, D659, D800 - fine
skip 900s for now
D1040, D1055, D1945, D2076, D2549, D2602, D2642, D2643, D2649, D2934 - fine
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https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/6200
D115 - add point for D1016 (even if not signed as such)
D643 - add point for D1016 (and add route?)
D1016 is signed: https://info.lenord.fr/contournement-ouest-de-caudry--on-peut-deja-rouler-sur-la-future-rd-1016
Route and wps added.
D121 - surely a concurrency with D959 at D959_S rather than just jumping from D95 to that junction?
D121 is indicated on GM as an own route. OSM only indicates a short extension from D95 which is also confirmed by GSV at the next roundabout. The route from that roundabout to D959_S is not indicated on September 2022 GSV nor OSM and the GM route is "wild guess" as there are several (unsigned) options.
Route split into two.
D122Cro - D166 -> RueSai
D166 is signed on August 2022 GSV (https://www.google.com/maps/@50.6623806,2.7620446,3a,75y,61.71h,80.21t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sVvu7laYPoJCAPj4DQoOkTA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192). Also at D945's junction (https://www.google.com/maps/@50.6575185,2.7689355,3a,75y,287.83h,86.05t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sXOd7O5z8fqVC7y9HD6dlEw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192). D166-62 extended to D122.
D649 - break in 2, either side of the N49?
The routing is obvious and both "remainders" west and east of N49 are quite long - even longer than the concurrency. Keep as-is.
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D902 - fine
D916, D916A - new roundabout at their junction. Move point to centre.
D916B - fine
D917 - truncate north of D54
D917Gou, D925, D928, D930, D932, D933, D933B - fine
D934 - D936 is NMP
D934A, D935, D935A - fine
D936 - D602 -> D602/D959
D936Jen - D934 is an NMP
D938 - D158D -> RueFraHer
D939, D940 - fine
D940Loo - D601 -> D601_E
D942 - D154_E -> D154_S (or _N _> _W)
D942A, D943, D943B, D944, D945, D945Nie, D945N, D946 - fine
D947 - D37_Eec should have a better suffix than 3 letters of a town ~2km away and on the D947 rather than D37
D948 - N333 -> ToN333
D951, D953, D954, D954Ama, D954Cre, D954A, D954ACon, D954AThi, D955, D955Sol, D956, D956Lec, D957, D957A, D957B - fine
D958 - D942 -> D109/D942
D959
- D121_E -> D121_N
- D336A - add route as signed (including towards border (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.300896,4.1035077,3a,20y,47.8h,98.68t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sMlcEmKmV1FvxskQKFl-vSA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en))
D960, D961, D962, D963, D964, D964Fou, D965 - fine
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Thanks! :)
https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/6204
D938 - D158D -> RueFraHer
No, add route (https://www.google.com/maps/@50.4788538,3.2441586,3a,15y,88.65h,93.89t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sc73VtpqGyT5pIShzFjbYfw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192).
I'll likely make data check and NMP check tomorrow or on Wednesday.
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The newly added routes are all fine.
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I also had a final look into frahdfd59 Nord departement. I'm happy with it. Any further comments before activation?
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I also had a final look into frahdfd59 Nord departement. I'm happy with it. Any further comments before activation?
Nope, go for it.
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Fine :)
frahdfd59 - Nord Routes Départementales will be activated with the next site update.
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Let's get Picardy reviewed, starting with Somme
D1, D1Ami, D1A, D1B, D1C, D1E, D1F, D2, D2A - fine
D3 - D21B -> RouLie
D4, D5 - fine
D6
- D917/D937 - your convention is for the lowest numbered D roads, so D181/D917?
- D58_E <-> D58_W
D6E, D7, D8, D8A, D8B, D8C, D8D, D8E, D8F, D9, D10E, D11, D11A, D11E, D12, D13, D14, D14E - fine
D15 - add point for road labelled on OSM as 'D345' (Aisne route a bit to the east)?
D16, D17 - fine
D18 - is D92_W in the right place
D18E, D19, D20, D20E, D21, D22, D22A, D23, D24, D25, D25E, D26, D26A, D27 - fine
D28 - D41_N -> D41_S
D29, D29A, D29B, D29C, D30, D31, D31E, D32, D32C, D32D, D34, D34B, D35, D35E, D36, D37, D38, D38A, D38E, D39, D40 - fine
D41 - add point for the road to the D250 south of Davenescourt
D42, D43 - fine
D44 - add point for Rue Principale (leads to D345-02)
D45, D45E, D46, D47, D47E, D48, D49 - fine
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https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/6584
D3 - D21B -> RouLie
It's D218E according to 2022 GSV (https://www.google.com/maps/@50.0441465,1.8864263,3a,15y,286.74h,88.94t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1skJFvIO-4KZP08ygJHmiBpA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192). Route added.
If I indicate a route number, there should be a D route. If there isn't, I usually just missed it. I also fucked up the number here for any reason ;)
D15 - add point for road labelled on OSM as 'D345' (Aisne route a bit to the east)?
Yep, OSM is sometimes total crap as we can see here. They indicate a route being Dxxx but don't break it up at departement boundaries or any other actual end of classification. :pan: I started reporting it anytime during my work on Francee.
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D50, D50Mir, D51, D51E, D52 - fine
D53 - add point for Rue de Forceville (links to D53E end)
D53E - fine
D54
- D935_S -> D920/D935
- D23 -> D23_N
D54A - rename as D54E and add actual D54A
D55, D56, D56E - fine
D57 - add point for Ruelle du Marais (links to end of D57A)
D57A, D58, D58E, D59, D59E, D60, D60E, D61, D62, D63 - fine
D64 - D147 is different now due to construction (needs both moving and splitting in two. Also D938)
D65, D66, D67, D67A, D68, D68E, D69, D70, D70E - fine
D71 - D71A is missing
D71E, D72, D73, D74, D74Com, D74Pys, D75, D75E, D76, D77, D78, D79 - fine
D80
- D48 -> D48/D106
- D106 -> D106_E
D81, D82, D82E, D83 - fine
D84 - add point for RueGam (links to nearby point on D54 and D920)
D85, D86, D87, D88, D89, D90, D90A, D90E, D91, D92 - fine
D93 - D93A is missing
D94, D94A, D94B, D94C, D95, D95E, D96, D96A, D96B, D96C, D97, D98, D98A, D98E - fine
D99 - swap shaping point for visible point at Rue d'Heuzecourt (links to end of D99E)
D99A, D99E - fine
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D100, D101, D102, D103, D104, D105, D106, D106E, D107, D107Lon - fine
D108 - D108E is missing
D109, D110 - fine
D110A - RueHaut -> RueFoc
D110E, D111, D111E, D112, D113, D114, D115, D115E, D116, D117, D118, D118A, D118E, D119, D120, D121 - fine
D122 - add point for road to A29 via the Villers-Bretonneux bypass?
D123 - fine
D124 - does it really extend that far into PdC?
D125, D126, D127, D128, D129, D129Bay, D130, D131, D132, D133, D134 - fine
D135, D135A, D135E, D136, D137, D138, D139, D139A, D140, D141 - fine
D142 - D142A is missing
D143, D143E, D144, D144E, D145 - fine
D146 - D146E is missing
D146A, D146B - fine
D147 - see D64
D148, D149 - fine
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Merci!
https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/6629
D108 - D108E is missing
D108A too.
D124 - does it really extend that far into PdC?
I think so, please refer to February 2023 GSV (https://www.google.com/maps/@50.1478717,2.478311,3a,90y,246.01h,63.04t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s6nuJ49_fJ_Yl-uBe6rn5vA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192).
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D54E, D64Mea, D71A, D93A, D108A, D108E, D142A, D146E, D150, D151, D152 - fine
D153
- check whether route has been truncated. GSV from Feb showing OSM's D925 route (https://www.google.com/maps/@50.1076584,1.8704158,3a,75y,125.79h,83.72t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s8N4e1WtQaJG_pyYVAc1iXg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu)
- at the very least, add point for road south to A16 exit 22
D154 - RueAncCha -> RueFourBan
D155, D156, D157, D157A, D157E, D158, D159, D160, D160E, D161 - fine
D161E, D162, D162E, D163, D163Bea, D164, D164A, D165, D166 - fine
D167 - D1 point has moved to new roundabout
D168, D169, D172, D173, D173E, D174, D175, D176, D176E, D177, D178, D179, D180, D180E, D181 - fine
D181E - RueAlzHaut -> RueAizHaut
D182, D182E, D183, D183E, D184, D185, D186, D186Cha, D187, D188, D189, D189E - fine
D190, D191, D192, D193, D194, D194E, D195, D195E, D196, D197, D198, D199, D199Per - fine
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https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/6656
D153
- check whether route has been truncated. GSV from Feb showing OSM's D925 route (https://www.google.com/maps/@50.1076584,1.8704158,3a,75y,125.79h,83.72t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s8N4e1WtQaJG_pyYVAc1iXg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu)
There is a new alignment of D4925 which was also renumbered to D925. I've truncated D153, extended D925 and removed D4925.
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Most of these are short routes and so it's easy to whizz through them as I listen to Joe Root whizz his way to a nice high score
D200, D204, D208, D210, D211, D211A, D211B, D211C, D211E, D212 - fine
D213E, D214, D214E, D215E, D216, D216B, D216E, D218A, D218E - fine
D221, D221E, D222, D223, D224, D224A - fine
D224B - D938 is slightly off
D226, D227, D228, D229 - fine
D230, D231, D232, D233, D234, D235, D236, D237, D238 - fine
D240, D241, D242, D243, D244, D245, D246, D247, D248 - fine
D250, D252, D253, D254, D255, D256, D258, D259 - fine
D262, D263, D264, D265, D266, D267, D268 - fine
D315, D315Dig, D316, D329, D332, D337, D341, D354 - fine
D402, D403, D405, D406, D408, D412 - fine
D413 - D138 is slightly off
D415, D417, D423, D430, D432, D439, D441, D447, D452, D459 - fine
D463, D464, D465, D468, D469, D471, D474, D475, D476 - fine
D482, D483, D485, D496, D498 - fine
D502, D503, D503A, D508, D517, D523, D532, D574, D615, D623 - fine
D632 - D32_S -> D32/D1001
D715 - fine
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D901, D916, D917, D919, D919Poi, D919B, D920, D925 - fine
D925Fri - D19A is missing
D925Mer, D928, D929, D929A - fine
D930, D930A, D930B, D930C, D930D, D932, D933, D933B - fine
D934 - D28E is missing
D935 - D5135 -> D45/D5135
D936, D937, D938, D938Aut, D938Cre, D938Mez, D938A - fine
D940 - D940E is missing
D940A, D941 - fine
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D1001 - fine
D1001Fle - RouAmi -> RouAmi_N
D1015, D1015Mer, D1015A, D1017, D1029, D1029Poi - fine
D1235 - AveSalAll -> RuePresFor (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@49.9014074,2.2841963,3a,18.5y,280.79h,83.63t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sSNHIDh_pVY7IdM-mUwMSpQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en&entry=ttu)
D1901, D1925, D1930, D2930, D4029 - fine
D4109, D4119, D4127, D4129, D4135, D4145, D4151, D4164 - fine
D4176, D4186, D4188, D4221, D4224, D4935, D4937, D5127 - fine
D5135 - D935 -> D45/D935
D5186 - fine
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I'll likely process the feedback next weekend. There are only minor issues. I guess that another look into it is not required. I think but to be sure: Have you already checked all frahdfd80 routes so that I can directly activate the system?
Feel free to start more reviews. I'll process them whenever time permits albeit I plan to be a lot on the road in the next weeks - for business and for leisure 8)
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I've checked all the routes, save the missing ones. I'll check them when they are added, but other than that Somme is done.
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https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/6690
I've checked all the routes, save the missing ones. I'll check them when they are added, but other than that Somme is done.
Great! I'll likely have a final look (data check) into it tomorrow. If you are quicker, I'll activate the system. If not, I'll do it on Thursday at the earliest.
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D19A, D28E, D940E - all fine
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Thanks :) https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/6699
frahdfd80 - Somme Routes Départementales will be activated with the next site update.
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Reviewing Oise
D1, D2, D3, D4, D5 - fine
D6 - D3 -> D3/D129
D7, D8, D9, D9E, D10, D10E, D11, D12, D13, D13A, D13E, D14, D15 - fine
D16, D16E, D17, D17E, D18, D19, D20, D21, D22, D22Bou, D23, D24 - fine
D25 - D922 -> D18/D922
D25Mar, D25Roc, D26 - fine
D26E - D932E -> D932A
D27, D27Cou, D28, D29, D30, D31, D32, D33, D34, D35, D36 - fine
D36E - D36 -> D36/D98
D37, D38, D39, D39E, D40, D41, D42, D43, D44, D45, D46, D46E, D47, D48, D49, D50, D50E - fine
D51 - add D51E as signed (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@49.2022987,3.0453927,3a,75y,355.17h,84.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sKgeQGQNYEtwCUeh8-gTycw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu)
D51Fos, D52, D53, D54, D55, D55Eto, D56, D57, D58, D59, D60, D61 - fine
D62 - add point for new D262 (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@49.3227729,2.4648343,3a,43y,166.65h,93.35t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sHYlee-YTxt77zKM95LCH-Q!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en&coh=205409&entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MDgyMy4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D) (and add route)
D62E, D63, D64, D65, D66, D67 - fine
D67For - D8/D129 -> HDF/NOR as a regional boundary
D68, D69 - fine
D70 - D58 -> D68
D71, D72, D73, D74, D75, D76, D77, D78, D79, D79E, D80, D81, D82 - fine
D83, D84, D85, D85E, D86, D87, D88, D88Rus, D88E, D89, D90, D91, D92 - fine
D93 - ToN31 -> D93A (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@49.3883979,2.0810519,3a,34.3y,234.62h,89.21t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLC27lmozbwasTMX-1-GT5g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en&coh=205409&entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MDgyMy4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D) (and add D93A)
D94, D95, D96, D97, D98 - fine
D98E - D98_S -> D98/D123 ?
D99 - fine
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D100, D101, D102, D102E, D103, D104, D105, IDF D105, D105Fle, D105E, D106, D107, D108 - fine
D109 - RueRoc -> RueRic
D110, D111, D111E, D112, D112E, D113, D114, D115, D116, D116E - fine
D117 - D90_W -> D90/D112
D118, D119, D120, D121, D122 - fine
D123 - add point for RueGri (marked on OSM as D123E, but not signed as such) as route turns off there, and the 'D123E' is a yellow road on OSM
D123Mon, D124, D125, D126, D127, D127E, D128, D129, D130, D133, D133E, D134, D136 - fine
D137 - D929E -> D929E_S
D138E, D139 - fine
D142 - D938_D -> D938_E
D143, D144, D145, D148, D149, D150, D151, D152, D153, D154, D155, D156 - fine
D157, D158, D159, D160, D161, D162, D163, D164, D165, D166, D167, D181 - fine
D200, D201, D202, D203, D205, D210, D234 - fine
D262 - add route
D315 - D124/D901 -> D119/D124 ?
D315Fou, D316 - fine
D330 - RueEgl -> D330A
D330A - RueEgl -> D330
D332, D335 - fine
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https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/7667
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D93A, D262, D501, D502, D504, D504E, D505, D506, D507, D508, D509, D510, D511, D512, D512E - fine
D513, D517, D518, D519, D521, D522, D523, D524, D525, D526, D527, D528, D529, D530, D531 - fine
D531E, D532, D533, D534, D535, D536, D537, D538, D539, D540, D541, D542, D543, D544, D545 - fine
D546, D547, D548, D549, D550, D551, D552, D553, D554, D555, D556, D557, D558, D559, D560 - fine
D561, D562, D564, D565, D566, D567, D568, D570, D571, D572, D573, D574, D575 - fine
D578 - D934 -> D932/D934
D579, D580, D582, D583, D586, D587, D588, D589, D590, D594, D595, D596, D597, D598, D599 - fine
D602, D603, D606, D606E, D607, D608, D609, D610, D611, D612, D615 - fine
D616, D617, D618, D619, D620, D621, D623, D624, D625, D626, D630, D631 - fine
D813L, D816L, D901, D901A, D901E, D909, D915, D915Del, D916, D916A, D919, D922 - fine
D923
- D153_S -> D6/D115_W ?
- D115/D153 -> D6/D115_E ?
D924, D924Cha, D924A, D927, D929, D929Fer, D929E, D930, D931, D931Pau - fine
D932 - new Noyon bypass (add D145E (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@49.5692336,2.9804475,3a,75y,354.84h,79.91t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1svk0V3RbJl8ZhLJqzoGoRdQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en&coh=205409&entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MDgyMy4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D), check renumberings in the town)
D932A - fine
D934 - D578 -> D578/D932
D935, D936, D938, D973, D981, D983, D1001, IDF D1001, D1001Cha - fine
D1016
- RueSai -> D262
- CenCom -> AvePaix ?
D1017 - fine
D1032 - split D932_Noy into two GSJs: D932_Noy and D145E
D1131 - fine
D1324
- N324/N330 - the N324 doesn't diverge here so shouldn't be referenced. Also, does the N324 split this route, which is former N324 into two?)
- C4 - add corrisponding point to D136
D1330 - fine
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https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/7773
D923
- D153_S -> D6/D115_W ?
- D115/D153 -> D6/D115_E ?
I don't get what you mean. I did:
D153_S -> D6/D153
D115/D153 not changed
D115_E -> D115_N
D1016
- RueSai -> D262
There is no RueSai wp in the whole system - and only one in HDF. D1016 already has a wp called D262. Please check again.
D1324
does the N324 split this route, which is former N324 into two?)
We could split it but I'd like to keep it as-is since it makes no sense to split it.
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There was one data error I've now fixed: https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/7779
There is no other data error nor open NMP.
Please have a final look into it and let me know if I can go ahead and activate frahdfd60. Thanks :)
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https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/7773
D923
- D153_S -> D6/D115_W ?
- D115/D153 -> D6/D115_E ?
I don't get what you mean. I did:
D153_S -> D6/D153
D115/D153 not changed
D115_E -> D115_N
D6 (https://travelmapping.net/hb/showroute.php?units=miles&u=si404&r=frahdf.d000660&lat=49.265319&lon=1.893307&zoom=16) diverges at both points I wanted changed with D6 in the label. As the lowest number, it needs to be in the label for consistency. However both of us have wrongly added D115 to the middle point, despite it being concurrent with D923 both sides of it, so my labels were off as well.
D6/D153 -> D6/D115 (D153 also diverges but is a higher number so neglected even though its the dominant number)
D115/D153 -> D6/D153 (D115 doesn't diverge, but the other two routes do)
D115_N - not sure why you changed it, but perfectly acceptable
D1016
- RueSai -> D262
There is no RueSai wp in the whole system - and only one in HDF. D1016 already has a wp called D262. Please check again.
It's fine - you made that label change when you added D262, which was after I reviewed the 1000s (but before I did the 500s, so sat on ice so it could be posted in numerical order as not publishing in that order has confused you before).
Everything else is fine: just those D923 labels to do before activation.
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D6/D153 -> D6/D115 (D153 also diverges but is a higher number so neglected even though its the dominant number)
D115/D153 -> D6/D153 (D115 doesn't diverge, but the other two routes do)
D115_N - not sure why you changed it, but perfectly acceptable
https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/7792 yep, I was confused....
frahdfd60 - Oise Routes Départementales will be activated with the next site update.
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Aisne is coming, but not till you are back (I might be able to get it done, but not post it until after Oise is activated, before you get that done - depends how quick you are and how busy my life gets)
Next chance to get it done "before I'm back" will be November 24th. Three weeks left.