fraoccdXX: Occitanie Routes Départementales

[michih]

So happy to see Pyrénées-Orientales go to preview! Thanks for your work on this.

Happy to get positive feedback on my work

On FRA-OCC D627-11 it looks like there are a couple points near Port Leucate to fix. D627 does not have access to the two roads immediately on either side of the canal there. So PortLeu should be moved a few hundred meters south to ramps, and CheGrau should be moved a few hundred meters north to its ramps. Thanks again!

I think that the points are correct. Both are grade-separate junctions, and the points are at the underpasses. I know that it might look odd but there are numerous examples like that at other places. si404 often demanded the points when reviewing my systems.

https://travelmapping.net/hb/showroute.php?r=fraocc.d062711

[michih]

fraoccd09 - Ariège  Routes Départementales will be in preview with the next site update. More than 360 routes for more than 1,300 miles.

[michih]

fraoccd65 - Hautes-Pyrénées  Routes Départementales will be in preview with the next site update. More than 400 routes for more than 1,600 miles.

[yakra]

In this case I’m with ua747sp.

[michih]

In this case I’m with ua747sp.

yep, but the decision was made years ago. There are too many wps like this all over Europe / the world.

[yakra]

Misbehaving diamond/partial cloverleaf interchanges: Some cases are better handled by putting the point where the ramps connect to the freeway. In this case, the points on the freeway and the cross road will not line up.

The roundabouts off to the side also serve roadways other than the ones at the grade separations. Pretty clear misbehaving parclo as I see it.

[michih]

fraoccd32 - Gers  Routes Départementales will be in preview with the next site update. More than 330 routes for about 2,100 miles.

[yakra]

For D809-12, recommend adding points for D2-12Vez & D94-12Ver.
These roads having their own intersections is enough to pull this away from 1PPI IMO.
This way, a traveler going between these 2 routes could still count some distance on D809.

Similar cases:
https://travelmapping.net/hb/showroute.php?r=al.us098&lat=30.655763&lon=-87.911836&zoom=16
https://travelmapping.net/hb/showroute.php?r=me.me026agra&lat=43.883039&lon=-70.338914&zoom=15
https://travelmapping.net/hb/showroute.php?r=me.me069&lat=44.784637&lon=-69.105034&zoom=15
https://travelmapping.net/hb/showroute.php?r=nh.nh140&lat=43.4551&lon=-71.567602&zoom=15
https://travelmapping.net/hb/showroute.php?r=pa.pa044&lat=41.015173&lon=-76.491159&zoom=15
...and I'm sure there are many more

[michih]

These roads having their own intersections is enough to pull this away from 1PPI IMO.
This way, a traveler going between these 2 routes could still count some distance on D809.

I went this way in the past but changed my mind over the years. What does the manual say on this? Or is it up to the region maintainer?

[yakra]

What does the manual say on this? Or is it up to the region maintainer?

All I'm finding is:

Some interchanges have unusual shapes or are stretched-out versions of normal interchanges. Use your best judgment.

Which it would appear is what you're doing. Up to the maintainer either way, I guess?

Point placement guidelines on that page just focus on interchanges. As for at-grades?
If the Interstate weren't there, US3, NH11 & NH140 would clearly take the shape they do. Or even with the earlier configuration of the interchange.
ME I-95 63 has undergone such a change during the TravelMapping days. Originally on US202 etc, ME26_N was an obviously separate point from the I-95 trumpet.

Might be worth an Instructions & Discussions thread?

[michih]

Might be worth an Instructions & Discussions thread?

I don't think so. Or is anyone else bothered?

[yakra]

FWIW, I wasn't bothered enough to start that thread myself.
As for others, it could be that people just aren't reading this thread because the topic's not relevant to them.
At some point I plan to make an I&D thread about NE: Interstate ending exit numbers -- people might be ignoring that thread because they don't maintain NE, or haven't traveled or don't plan to, or just aren't interested in Nebraska, or...

[Jim]

... or just aren't interested in Nebraska, or...

Nebraska. Honestly, it’s not for everyone

[michih]

fraoccd34 - Hérault Routes Départementales will be in preview with the next site update. More than 800 routes for more than 2,500 miles.

fraoccm34 - Montpellier Méditerranée Métropole Routes Métropolitaines will be in preview with the next site update. Almost 100 routes for more than 200 miles.

[michih]

fraoccd31 - Haute-Garonne Routes Départementales will be in preview with the next site update. More than 950 routes for more than 2,500 miles.